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If you averaged everyones collection, even here - with the Big Boys present, what number do you think you'd come up with?

50, 75, maybe 100?

As morphs become more and more prevelant, wont there come a day when people will stop having room for female normals?

Why bother with a normal female if a het. albino, pied, clown or some other girl can do the same job, while making the offspring that much more valuble as doubles or triples?

I'm not talking about tommorrow, it will take time for the morph's that are becoming more prevelant to grow and work there way through the ranks, but in a few years?

It's actually quite simple really....

The majority of ball pythons sold in the US are....NORMALS! Mass produce normals, sell them to pet shops and such for $35-40, and you have taken pressure off the wild populations as well as supplied potential starter snakes. How many of the ball python breeders started with just 1 snake...a NORMAL ball?

Chris
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1.1.0 Irian x Jungle Carpet Pythons
1.2.0 Black Rats- Robert, Cady, Kylie
1.2.0 Albino FL Kings-Nick, Jessica, Ashley
1.1.0 Crimson Corns-Kane, Ruby
0.1.0 Het-Crimson Corns-Lola
0.1.0 White-Sided/Pos Het Albino Black Rat-Lita
1.0.0 Albino White-sided Black Rat-Rey
0.1.0 Albino/Het White-sided Black Rat-Stacey
1.2.0 Creamsicle Corns-Vince, Trish, Torrie
0.1.0 Fl King-Bonnie
1.0.1 Green Tree Pythons Biak-Brandon, Aru-Orochimaru
1.0.0 Flame X Blood Bearded-Ruff
2.4.0 Ball Pythons-Kritsy, Gretchen, Alexis, 100% het for albino balls- Naruto, Hinata, 66% het VPI Axanthic-Sasuke
0.1.0 Red-tail Boa-Xena
0.0.1 Savannah Monitor-Izzy

They will also always be valuable as breeders. As more homozygous dominant type and even double homozygous dominant type males become available there will be even more demand for big ready to breed females. Take a killer bee male to a normal female and produce eggs with 50/50 odds of being bumblebees or pastels. Someone will find room for that big normal female and a few dozen rats to feed her between clutches for 100% morph and even combo clutches.

I know what your saying Randy, however, why not do the same thing with an additional variant present in the female?

Look at the cornsnake market, EVERYTHING is double, triple..there seem to be no normals left?

I am not saying I am correct, I just think that most people have a comfort area in the amount of snakes they want to keep and why bother with a normal when she can have an additional gene there, even if you do not use it in the morph you are creating?

I dont know?

Al

Hello?

Thats what I am saying, they will be religated to $40 @ the pet store not $800 here.

At the end on the day (most)people keep a certain quantity of animals. I dont think its out of the realms of possibity for someone to say "I will slowly replace my breeder stock of normal females with some of the reccesive gene animals I am producing and make any future offspring more valuble as doubles or triples, even if I do not breed the gene out she posseses."

If you owned 2 snakes and had to pick would you prefer they be a Pastel and a large normal female or a Pastel and a large 100%het for Albino female? From which pair would you make the most money? Its the same concept whether it is 2, 20 or 200, no?

I am not saying the 3k-gram lunker female is going away tomorrow, I am saying I feel the normal female will become less and less of a necessary staple in ones collection.