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well i was wondering if anyone here can help me find anyone who can sell box turtles(three toed) and send them to hawaii ... we dont have any lately because the airlines wont cooperate ... i hear three toed are the common kind sold in the mainland but not here ... i have one three toed female and 2 ornate females and a huge outdoor pen ... thanks to anyone for your help ...

I have no idea but you could check the classifieds here on Kingsnake.com.
The back section of Reptiles magazing is always full of ads, you might pick one of those up & check there.
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PHRatz

thanks for the reply ... ive been lookin in the classifieds and found a lot of three toeds but noone who can ship them here ... i guess ill keep lookin around ...

Most people only ship to the lower 48 states, and in a few instances and/or circumstances will occasionally ship to canada and alaska but not by a long shot. How do you get animals WITHOUT the airlines anyway? By boat? I doubt anyone would ship by boat. Best bet is to wait out the airlines and hopefully work something out, Unless you find someone who ships internationally.

thanks for the advice ... i guess ill just have to wait it out then ... i wonder how much it would cost to ship a boxie here anyway ...thanks for your help though ..

I understand your frustration on getting a box turtle into your home, but it may be easier for you just to move out of hawaii. Box turtles are allowed to be imported into the islands due to them being on the conditional animal list BUT, and I repeat BUT, there is alot of red tape to be cut through for this to happen. All animals must be approved first before you even start to go through the import paperwork. Even after that it may be months before you can even be allowed to get. Also I believe all animals must go through a quarenteen for I believe 3 months. Here is some info from Hawaii's F/W website. "Animals on the restricted and conditionally approved lists require permits prior to their importation. All microorganisms require approval before entering Hawaii. Certain species of microoganisms require permits in advane of shipment. For restricted organisms, site approval is required prior to permit approval and permit is required for possession. Following are the Hawaii Administrative Rules regarding importing including lists of conditionally approved, restricted and prohibited non-domestic animals and microorganisms"
Look here:
http://www.hawaiiag.org/hdoa/pi_pq_lists.htm
This link also gives you a break down on the process:
http://library.kcc.hawaii.edu/CTSA/publications/importing.pdf

I am sure you may be able to find your local fish and wildlife centers and maybe there is a turtle already in the islands that needs to be adopted? Or maybe there is a pet store out there(I usually don't say that but it may be your only choice)
Remember you may say oh no problem I am willing to go through that process for one(Which many of us would also say), but try finding someone on the other end to do so is a really hard part. Good luck and I hope I helped you not helped to the point of discouragement but to at least open your eyes to this matter.
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well i dont think ill be moving out of hawaii anytime soon but thanks for all the information ... i can look around at pet stores but i thought id look for captive bred turtles because i heard most pet store ones are wild caught ... you know anyone who is willing to ship them here ? you know how much it would cost ? well thanks for your time ...