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question for robyn

zach_whitman Nov 19, 2005 05:43 PM

This isn't about monitors so if you answer we should move this over to the rat snake forum so the kingsnake guys don't get pissed.

I was just cruising the pro exotics site and I noticed those big red tubs that you apear to be using to breed your coxi. I was just curious what was going on with those? How come you choose to use those deep tubs instead of a more traditional drawer setup like you show on the caresheets page? Do they like to burow? Aside from the fact that they like it cool and moist there is very little good info available on these guys. Any other advice from the guy with the most experience with these snakes would be much apreciated.

Thanks in advance

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zach_whitman Nov 19, 2005 05:49 PM

Sorry about posting in the monitor forum. I knew that you checked this forum frequently so I posted it here, then I realized that you use the ratsnake forum too! sorry, i don't spend a lot of time on that forum.

robyn@ProExotics Nov 20, 2005 12:47 PM

i haven't really put info at the site, i just haven't had the time to do a complete explanation.

but it IS related to monitors. basically, we have taken monitor theory and applied it to the snakes, Coxi and Mandarins specifically.

the deep snake tubs allow us to use about a foot and a half of soil (we use the DG for those setups). for the snakes, i bury a clay hidespot at the bottom of the soil, and then dig it back out and give them access. there are also hides up top, as well as a version of the wood stacks.

the idea was to give the animals temperature choices and a wide temp gradient. there is a basking light up top, and it is coolest in the low hide spot.

one of the problems we were having was the Coxi females kept cycling and laying eggs in the cooling period. but those eggs would be no good because temps were already 55F across the board. i wanted a wider temp range, with a usable basking spot, so that the females could cool at 55F if they needed, or bask in the 80s if they needed.

it has worked very well, and we get eggs at many different times of the year. good eggs.

with the Mandarins, we see lots of tunneling and "burrowing" and they have even made their own burrows, laid eggs, backfilled them, and had the eggs hatch right there in the cage, as opposed to the egg laying box that we usually see eggs in.

temp choices, wide temp gradient, soil, stacks, basking spots, much of the husbandry derives from our monitor experience. i am sure there are tons of folks here on the monitor forum that also keep snakes, but i don't think many have thought of applying these strategies to their snake husbandry : )

it has been a very enlightening experience!
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