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Florida residents: Ipomoea aquatica

mrcota Nov 26, 2005 11:46 PM

Sorry for taking so long to post this. According to the USDA, this is a pest species in Florida. I am suspecting that it is this Thai Morning Glory that is present there. There is also a Chinese Morning Glory (check your Asian supermarkets to see what it looks like). Both variants of the species are great for your tortoises (and for you). Chinese Morning Glory information is available, although difficult to find, but the Calcium-Phosphorous ratio is slightly above 2-1. The Thai Morning Glory information is not available, but according to a graduate student here, it was rated at a much higher Calcium content than the Chinese variety. Here is a picture of Thai Morning Glory:

Michael

Replies (6)

simias Nov 27, 2005 12:04 AM

I also use morning glories, but note that some literature indicates that morning glories (species not identified) arre toxic to tortoises...

mrcota Nov 27, 2005 12:38 AM

That is an American variety. This one that I mentioned (Asian) is eaten by people and used for herbivorous reptiles by the zoos and breeders here. The one pictured as well as the one in the Asian grocery stores are quite safe, as are the flowers.

Michael

emutiong Nov 27, 2005 06:51 AM

mrcota

WARNING on Ipomoea aquatica
Is that what they sell as water spinach or "Kang kong "
in asian store

I am from Malaysia and they grow in the wild here also they are one of the cheapest Vegie sold
Most pet shop here feed their Trachemys Scripta elegans , G.elegans just on them (Ipomoea aquatica)cheap n convience

But from personal experience if given in large quantity n long term forming bulk of the diet of many chelonia(Trachemys Scripta elegans , Cuora amboinensis n G.elegans )has a laxative effect on them

Cheers SAM

mrcota Nov 27, 2005 08:02 AM

Sam,

I am not sure about feeding it to Trachemys scripta elegans as the bulk of their diet, especially when considering they are more carnivorous than herbivorous in their dietary habits. I keep those species and grow Ipomoea aquatica in their pond for them to nibble on. I notice the Cuora ambionensis eating it from time to time, but they also forage around their pond for other edible plants nearby. The bulk of their diet is made up of live fresh water shrimp, guppies, live blood worms and supplemented with pellets.

Since this is a tortoise forum, for Geochelone elegans (as well as G. sulcata, G. pardalis, and G. radiata), they are grazing tortoises. The bulk of their diet should be made up of grasses, which in Southeast Asia, there are wild grasses which occur in their natural habitat. Over 50% of the diet for the above Geochelone species listed above that I keep is made up of mixed grasses. The rest of that diet is split up among many vegetables, mostly leafy. Approximately 15-20% of what makes up their daily salad is Ipomoea aquatica.

For my Indotestudo elongata and Geochelone carbonaria, about 1/3 of the greens that make up their diet is Ipomoea aquatica, which would make up about 25% or so of their total diet.

In doing a nutritional analysis of all the vegetables available in Southeast Asia, Ipomoea aquatica is among the most suitable to be included in a diet of herbivorous reptiles and tortoises due to its favorable calcium to phosphorous ratio and other nutrients. Yes, it is cheap here, but cheap does not mean less nutritious.

I believe in varied diets of highly nutritious foods for my herbivorous Chelonians. The only part of my tortoises’ diet which can be considered the bulk of a diet are the mixed grasses for my grazing species.

Of all the breeders and zoos that use Ipomoea aquatica as part of the diet of their tortoises or herbivorous reptiles, I have never heard a report of a problem with this plant. I also have not had any problems with the above listed species or my iguanas. Your report is the first I had ever heard.

Cheers,

Michael

>>mrcota
>>
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>>WARNING on Ipomoea aquatica
>>Is that what they sell as water spinach or "Kang kong "
>>in asian store
>>
>>I am from Malaysia and they grow in the wild here also they are one of the cheapest Vegie sold
>>Most pet shop here feed their Trachemys Scripta elegans , G.elegans just on them (Ipomoea aquatica)cheap n convience
>>
>>But from personal experience if given in large quantity n long term forming bulk of the diet of many chelonia(Trachemys Scripta elegans , Cuora amboinensis n G.elegans )has a laxative effect on them
>>
>>
>>
>>Cheers SAM

emutiong Nov 27, 2005 04:58 PM

Michael,

I personaly only includes about 10% of Ipomoea aquatica in my tortoises diet (G.elegans ,G.pardalis)more in species like M.emys , I.elongata , I.forstenii , G.carbonaria
I like to use Ipomoea aquatica too. Just want to share from experience .

Cheers
SAM

mrcota Nov 28, 2005 01:55 AM

Sam,

Beautiful Manouria emys.

Your experience is interesting, it is the first negative experience that I have heard about.

Michael

>>Michael,
>>
>>I personaly only includes about 10% of Ipomoea aquatica in my tortoises diet (G.elegans ,G.pardalis)more in species like M.emys , I.elongata , I.forstenii , G.carbonaria
>>I like to use Ipomoea aquatica too. Just want to share from experience .
>>
>>Cheers
>>SAM
>>

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