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Ekeve Nov 27, 2005 02:20 AM

my fiance for xmas the other day got me 2 younglings from petco. here is their picture.

And a picture of thier tank setup.

I have been reading for teh past two days about geckos being for the most part single quarter pets. However.. I am hoping tha tmy tank is not a bad siz to have them in.

its a 20L tank. I have a heat pad at one end with a heat light over it. However, its a screen top so the heat doesn't all corrugate and will rise.

I think one is about to shed also.. beciase she is startting to look a litte dry. This evening, i put in a humid hide.. or a moit one on the end where my heat mat and light are to keep it somewhat humid like damp.

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Ekeve Nov 27, 2005 02:44 AM

Is it normal for your geckos to not really eat after they have been moved from tank to another?

I got these two (as i stated above) and they were put into a little gallon tank (plastic) and for the last 2 days they were in that I made sure they had a heat lamp goign for warmth as best as i could. However this past evening i got a 20 L tank and gave them a new home. I haven't really picked them up alot.. just for moving and suchmaking sure they were still avtive.. I am hoping that there is nothing wrong with them. there was a good two places in the small gallon'd tank of fecal matter.. and a spot of what had looked like pee with smashed bug parts... And they seem to be eating...

However after moving them into the MUCH larger tank they seem to be lost and i hacvne't seen them eat once yet. SO i am nervouse about how long it takes to generally get used to a new home.

I am very new at this.. and It was such a wonderful gift from my fiance. I have been researching and reading up and everyhting.
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Ekeve
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Canio Nov 27, 2005 05:40 AM

First of all, your fiancee is totally cool for getting you some leos. However, for the most part people on the forum (at least in my experience) house their geckos alone to A) avoid spread of parasites/disease between animals B) avoid fighting and C) ensure that all animals are getting their food ie. one is not taking it all. That said, if you are going to house the two together (not recomended) I would add more hides so that they are not competing for hide spots. I would also watch both very closely for signs of fighting. As for not eating after being moved, often times a gecko will need a day or three to settle into a new place and become comfortable. I would leave a dish (maybe two) of meal worms in the enclosure at all times for them to eat at their leisure. Then feed them crickets or roaches regularly and I am sure they will be eating in no time.

HTH
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Shelley1063 Nov 27, 2005 10:30 AM

Very cute babies!!! One important thing, how are you measuring your tank tempertures? The substrate (floor) on the warm side needs to be between 88-92 degrees. Your babies need "belly" heat in order to digest their food. If the temps are too low they may not eat. The best thermometers for measuring substrate temps are the digital ones with a probe. Walmart has some great ones for $7.97 (indoor/outdoor thermometers). The probe has a flat side making it easy to keep flat against the substrate. Your cool side temps need to be around 80 degrees.

Be sure if you are feeding them crickets that they are not too big, 1/4" crickets should be fine. Also be sure you are dusting the crickets with pure calcium (no D3 added or phosphorus) 5 days/week, this is extremely important with babies. It is wise to leave a small dish/cap of pure calcium in the tank for them. Dust your crickets twice a week with a vitamin supplement that contains D3, they need the D3 to aid in calcium absorption, but too much D3 can be toxic.

Good luck with your babies, keep us updated on their progress !!

ekeve Nov 27, 2005 02:10 PM

ok.. i photomerged 4 shots of my tank after i added another coconut and another humid hide. and some fauna.

its not eh best.. but you get teh genreal picture lol.


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Ekeve
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ekeve Nov 27, 2005 01:43 PM

Thank you

Your right, i have read that its not reccomended.... however, these two were in the same tank together at the store, and while they have been in this tank.. i seem to have found them together sometimes in one of the coconut shells.

I did get the moist hides up and i added another cocnut shell... so there are 2 of each.

I realized that the one i thought was dusty looking.. is starting to shed... SO from what i have read about stress at such a young age, and on top of that they are shedding... she doesn't seem to be too hungry right now.

OH and my albino one, I allso got some foliage and placed those on th ewarm side to give some shade, she was going all over it looking around.. but i notied today too that it looks liek she might start to shed skin also. ANd while writing this.. while exploring.. she tried nipping one of the 2 crickets in there.

I havne't really seen any fights.. and i was up most of last night watching them with the lights out.. i think...
I am ramblling.. sorry.. i am still excited like a new kid in a candy hsop lolol
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Ekeve
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ekeve Nov 27, 2005 02:14 PM

I have 2 kinds of dusting poweder and they both say they have D3. in the photo i posted... i do have a small dish aof just the poweder and a another one with MiniMealworms in them. and of course some water.

Earlier this morning i noticed one of teh 2 crickets was eating teh miniworms . I had used one of the vitamin dusts and sprinkled over them.

I was using a strip thermometer on the heat side in teh middle of the tank wall. However i will go out and get a couple of digitals today.

thanks for you suggestions And help
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Ekeve
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boxielover Nov 27, 2005 03:53 PM

How much were those guys. They look awsome. You said you got them at petco?

ekeve Nov 27, 2005 05:21 PM

yep, at petco with a pals card they were $20 a peice.
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Ekeve
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There is magic everywhere you look. All you have to do is beleive.

Gazz Nov 27, 2005 03:38 PM

>>Is it normal for your geckos to not really eat after they have been moved from tank to another?
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>>Yes it usually take them a couple day before they start feeding.I find that leo's that size do better on small crickets.When there about sub/adult if you wish change them to mealworms.Leo's like there dinner to run for there life it's more fun that way ha'ha'ha .

Gazz Nov 27, 2005 01:00 PM

Cute little geckos just one thing do you know what sex they was incubated for ? if not keep a very close eye on them liveing to gether a (male & female YES) (babys of equal size of what ever sex possilbe but if males after a serton amount of time they will fight so NOT RECONMENDED) (female & female YES) (male & male NO NEVER).So please be careful if you don't know the sex of them.Welcome to the world of leo's .
I don't know if you know but if you don't the one at the top of the picture is a (Albino) the other one is a (patternless).

ekeve Nov 27, 2005 02:17 PM

Thanks for the welcome

AS far as i can tell they are both female i chked a few times.. looking as close as i could and i didn't see any black or dots that would show that they are male.

But i will definlty keep an eye on em. I figured i will start cheking about 1 every week or every other week.

Thank you for letting me know the breed. Seeing pitures i could tell the pinkish one was an albino.. but i din't know the other one so thanks
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Ekeve
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melgrj7 Nov 27, 2005 01:24 PM

Congrats on your new babies! They are very pretty. A 20 long is usually big enough for 2 leopared geckos. Just make sure that one is not dominating the other. Also, if you end up with two males you will need to get a seperate enclosure, as they will fight. It is a good idea to have at least 2 hides for each gecko, one on the warm side and one on the cool side, and then to also have a humid hide. Sometimes having 2 feeding dishes (if you are feeding worms) is also a good idea. I have 4 leopard geckos living together in a 40 breeder and don't have any problems. I do watch during feeding time to make sure they all get food. After the dominate one (in my case my albino female) has eaten enough I usually move her so the others can eat. I also have many different hides for them and visual barriers.

It can take a few days, sometimes up to a week, before they will eat after being moved. Make sure their temperatures are good. Have you had a fecal done yet? I always do fecals on any new animals to test for parasites. My vet charges $15 per fecal. I also do fecals reguarly on all my leos, at least once a year, just to be safe, and especially if there is a weight loss on any of them (that is not due to egg laying).

Hope you enjoy them for the many, many years to come

ekeve Nov 27, 2005 02:23 PM

Thank you

I will definlty chk to make sure, right now my patterless (thanks gazz) is starting shed, and my albino has done most of the wandering around during the daytime hours and night time.

But i was up most of last night.. well becuase i was wanting to make sure all was good, and htey were both out.

And after adding teh foliage today, i noticed in spots on albino that she looks to start early stages of shedding.. they have bits of skin coming up so i hope that does indicate shedding.

I decided that i i'm goign to start naming them Pinky and the breain lol or somethign to that extent tee hee.
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Ekeve
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ekeve Nov 27, 2005 02:26 PM

I will definlty have to look for a vet in my area. to see if they do that.

Thank you for the suggestion on that.

The one thing that is worrisom is that since being moved to this much bigger cage, they havne't left any fecal. but then they havne't eaten either, and before i moved they did leave some droppings.

So, thanks for the good suggestion
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Ekeve
ekeve2004@gmail.com
There is magic everywhere you look. All you have to do is beleive.

boxielover Nov 27, 2005 03:58 PM

Do you know how much those were? If ou dont mind./ Im looking for a albino or something on that line.

ekeve Nov 27, 2005 05:23 PM

yes, with a petco pals they were $20.00 (19.99) and the one petco near my home had alot of albino babies.
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Ekeve
ekeve2004@gmail.com
There is magic everywhere you look. All you have to do is beleive.

boxielover Nov 28, 2005 08:17 PM

That is such a good deal. Where do you live? It always seems like petco has the best choice for leos.

Ekeve Nov 28, 2005 11:21 PM

Des Moines, Iowa

It seems to me that whenever i go i see lots of animals there, but when i go to petsmart they don't have half the selection. However i don't always go everyday. I didn about once every other month or so... just to look and wish
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Ekeve
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There is magic everywhere you look. All you have to do is beleive.

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