How do u identify a Rat and Corn snakes?
or rather more specifically what is the difference between the two and how can u tell apart?
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Rat or Corn?
l0co
Dec 03, 2005 06:20 PM
Replies (5)
l0co
Dec 03, 2005 06:36 PM
how is it possible to tell apart between an Elaphe guttata emoryi and an Anerysthric Corn?
Hotshot
Dec 03, 2005 07:01 PM
Anery corns lack the red pigment and have yellow pigment.
Here is a pic of one from South Mountain reptiles..
And a pic of my GPR...
The GPR usually have alot more browns(reds)where the anery corn will be grey/black, and the anery will have yellows on the sides of the neck.
Brian
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RATS
1.0 Corn snake "Warpath"(KY locale)
1.0 Black rat snake "Havok" (KY locale)
1.1 Black rat snakes "Reaper and Mystique" (MO locale)
1.0 Albino Black rat snake "Malakai" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Everglades rat snake "Deadpool" (Dwight Good stock)
0.1 Greenish rat snake "Rogue" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Great plains rat snake "Reign Fire" (TX locale)
1.0 Grey rat snake "Punisher" (White oak phase)(Dwight Good stock)
RACERS
1.0 Eastern Yellow Belly racer "Nightcrawler" (MO locale)
KINGS
1.1 California king snake "Bandit" & "Moonstar" (Coastal phase)
1.1 Prairie king snakes "Bishop" & "Askani" (KY locale)
0.1 Black king snake "Domino" (KY locale)
1.1 Desert Kingsnakes "Gambit" & "Psylocke"
0.1 Florida Kingsnake "Shard"
0.1 Speckled Kingsnake "Haven"
MILKS
1.0 Eastern/red Milk intergrade "Cable" (KY locale)
1.0 Eastern/Red Milk intergrade "Omega Red" (KY locale)
BULLS/GOPHERS/PINES
0.1 Sonoran Gopher "Husk"
1.0 Kankakee bull (Phil Peak stock)
Good luck and Happy Herping
Brian
phiber_optikx
Dec 04, 2005 12:49 AM
Once you see them in person it is quite easy to immediately tell the difference. Great plains rats and corns are a bad example though. Since they are so extremely closely related they can/are impossible to tell a hybrid, excluding root beers and creams. But the other common rats I.E. Black Rats, Yellow Rats, Everglades Rats, Bairds Rats, Trans-Pecos Rats, Grey Ratsnake, all have a "bald" head. As in they have little or no pattern on their heads. That is a definate giveaway. Once you start looking around at the different species you will be able to tell them almost instantly just at a glance 
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Ball Python "Wilson" (Castaway)
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
0.0.1 Mexican Black Kingsnake "Onyx"
l0co
Dec 04, 2005 02:28 AM
i recentley got a baby corn which looks to be an Anery Corn according to Mr HotShot.. it is all grey and black with no brown
the thing is that it doesnt seem to have the "bell" or "arrowhead" pattern u see in most corns
another indication ive heared of is what the "Corn" name comes from.. the pattern on the underside of the snake
Will corns always have that "checkered" pattern while rats will always have random blotches on their underside?
phiber_optikx
Dec 04, 2005 12:13 PM
Corns will always have that checkerboard unless they are stripe or motley. I know I can at least vouch for black rats in saying they have a checkerboard too but it doesn't start for 1/3 of their body.
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Ball Python "Wilson" (Castaway)
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
0.0.1 Mexican Black Kingsnake "Onyx"
