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Madagascar Cat-eyed snakes (update)

chaoscat Dec 05, 2005 10:28 PM

Well, I was told that the three were feeding on live mice, and two took thawed when left in their cages overnight.

The first one I fed was the larger silver female, she was hiding underneath her paper towel, so I dropped the thawed fuzzy next to her. For most of the evening she ignored it and even curled up on the other side of the cage, but it was gone this morning.

The first gold male was in his water dish, so I set the thawed fuzzy on the lip of the dish. He knocked it in the water sometime later and it was gone this morning.

The last gold male refused thawed food, so I dropped a live fuzzy in with him and haven't seen him take it yet.

Still waiting on feces so I can get fecals done.

Oh, and I found my Boiga cyanea
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Replies (5)

Oxyrhopus Dec 06, 2005 09:53 AM

I have a captive born pair, a gold and silver, I think 02 or 03 but cannot remember now? Perhaps siblings of the ones you have? Here is a photo of the silver a year ago eating a rodent. The two are very different in their feeding behavior, the silver more willing to eat during the day and attack like a beast, the gold a bit shy. Both feed much better in the evening and are quite weary of being out and about in a lighted situation and both require a tight hide box or prefer to hide under the mulch in a coil. When kept apart, they feed much better, however they do have periods when they will go off feed for a few weeks for no known reason, so do not be concerned if this happens, especially during this time of the year with air pressure changes and temperature changes. I think they can be kept a bit cooler than 85-90 since they seem to move mostly during the late evening. And when they don't feed, they do not loose weight and can go without eating for a couple months sometimes without any problems. If yours are captive born, perhaps a fecal is not even required if their poop looks normal. If not, then perhaps do a fecal. In any case, they are quite interesting and different for sure.

Dan

Oxyrhopus Dec 06, 2005 09:55 AM

a pair of adults. I was informed that these were a different subspecies but never looked into it yet? Either case, these are the same with their feeding as one eats fast like a champ and the other needs a bit more time to eat and usually only wants one mouse whereas the other will eat 3 although they both are about the same size.

Dan

chris_harper2 Dec 06, 2005 11:26 AM

I posted (on this forum) a dichotomous key to this Genus a while back. It should turn up in a search or I can repost it in the next day or two when I'm back on my home computer.

In a nutshell, almost any Madagascarophis in this country is M. ocellatus and not M. colubrina. The ones pictured in this thread are M. ocellatus. I have kept both species and they are quite different.

There is talk of different subspecies of M. ocellatus but at least one researcher thinks they are simply polymorphic. This is somewhat supported by variable coloration among hatchlings produced by gravid imports. However, with the deforestation of Madagascar there could also be more intergrade zones among the subspecies, therby explaining the variation among hatchlings produced by gravid imports.

At any rate, let me know if you decide to look into the subspecific status of your specimens and need that key.
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Current snakes:

1.1 Gonyosoma oxycephala - (Silver/Yellow)

2.2 Gonyosoma oxycephala - (Green)

4.3 Gonyosoma janseni - (Black)

chaoscat Dec 06, 2005 02:59 PM

>>a pair of adults. I was informed that these were a different subspecies but never looked into it yet? Either case, these are the same with their feeding as one eats fast like a champ and the other needs a bit more time to eat and usually only wants one mouse whereas the other will eat 3 although they both are about the same size.
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>>Dan
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Those look just like my gold males.
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chaoscat Dec 06, 2005 02:58 PM

>>I have a captive born pair, a gold and silver, I think 02 or 03 but cannot remember now? Perhaps siblings of the ones you have? Here is a photo of the silver a year ago eating a rodent. The two are very different in their feeding behavior, the silver more willing to eat during the day and attack like a beast, the gold a bit shy. Both feed much better in the evening and are quite weary of being out and about in a lighted situation and both require a tight hide box or prefer to hide under the mulch in a coil. When kept apart, they feed much better, however they do have periods when they will go off feed for a few weeks for no known reason, so do not be concerned if this happens, especially during this time of the year with air pressure changes and temperature changes. I think they can be kept a bit cooler than 85-90 since they seem to move mostly during the late evening. And when they don't feed, they do not loose weight and can go without eating for a couple months sometimes without any problems. If yours are captive born, perhaps a fecal is not even required if their poop looks normal. If not, then perhaps do a fecal. In any case, they are quite interesting and different for sure.
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>>Dan
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I was told mine were CBB by a professor at Univ. of Texas. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get ahold of that professor, nor do I have a name.

They very well might be siblings. What's a maximum size on these? My female is twice the size of the males, she's almost 2' long. I have them on paper towel right now because I quarantine every new animal. Eventually I'm going to switch them over to newspaper and give them some hides and branches.
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