Reptile & Amphibian Forums

Hey everyone,

I started a new thread because the last one got a little off subject. It's about 5 down if you need a background...

Well an update on Pablo. He has been sleep the majority of yesterday day and today during the day as well. Not drinking much of anything. I did mash up a couple silkworms and mixed with water and was able to get down about 3ml yesterday and 3ml today. He's still not looking good though. I plan on going to the vet tomorrow. I hope it's not too late for my little guy and I hope they are able to help.

My question is: what should I expect when I go to the vet? I figure they're going to check blood and fecal, but after that? What then? Is there any hope for Pablo???
-----
1.0 Picasso panther chameleon (Pablo)
1.0 D. Tinctorius (Cobalt V.)
0.1.1 D. Auratus
0.0.1 Golddust Day Gecko

Not to get off subject again on you as I don't know what to expect because I haven't had the misfortune of owning a sick chameleon. But you could also add liquid pedialtye to your water. It is a good and not nearly as messing of a method of getting extra nutrition to your cham

Hi Justin,

Since I was one who helped to hijack your thread I apologize. You had a serious problem and we turned it into a lesson in Lepidoptera ;(

There is an article on ChamNews all about what to expect from a vet visit. I hope you are bringing a fresh fecal for him to check. If he is not pooping regularly you could try to give him a warm soak to get it out of him. Remove from any water right away (the poop) and put in glass jar.

If he is dehydrated (probably is if he has not been drinking) the vet may want to give him subcutaneous fluids. I would use pedialyte rather than gatorade (It think it was discussed once and that gatorade has extra sugar in it that are not needed by your cham. But generic brand pedialyte and keep in fridge. it does not keep more than a few days. Ask me after you get back and I will dig up the recipe for home made so you can make as much or as little as you need (or freeze like Carlton suggested).

I am curious - since you have had him for a long time did you see any signs earlier (looking back, now). This is not to judge you, we ALL know how hard it is to see things coming sometimes and even with the best and most attentive care things happen (Luna was doing better than in a long time and something burst and I lost her in a matter of hours).

You may have gotten comfortable with his setup and figured all was OK, but just for a refresher you might want to post your setup specifics (see link below and go to Setup Questions section) and we can look it over with a fresh eyes.

Let us know how things go and I hope you come back with good news! Here is a link to the article

lele
Vet visit

-----
Chameleon Help & Resource Info

0.1 Veiled Chameleon - Luna. She's now hanging from her big jungle gym in the sky
1.0 Beardie - Darwin
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Lita
0.1 African Clawed Frog - Skipper
0.1 Mad. Hissers and she is on the loose!
0.1 Chilean Rose Hair Tarantula - Rosa Leigh
0.1 Goliath Bird-Eater Tarantula - Natasha
?.? Pinktoe Tarantula - no name yet

np
-----
Feenie

1.1 vieled cham.- Stitch and Rana (Missing you,Chloe)
2.0 Panther chams- Lou and Yosamite Sam
1.0 Giant Day Gecko- Mr. Gecko
0.1 Aussi Whites Tree frog- Frumpy
1.0 Peacock tree frog- Igaro
0.1 Reeds tree frog- Dottie
0.0.2 New River Tinc. Dart Frogs- Tinker and Bell
2.2 Canines Junior-pitbull chiuahuah mix, Jose- chiuahuah, Pearl- Staffie, and Daisy- Red nose Pit- foster child
1.0 Fiance- Trent species unknown
and the list grows on.............

sit in the corner and think about what ya did, LOL

Since you BOTH appoligised, you can watch TV, and use the computer IMMEDIATELY, hehehehhehehe

-----
PHEve / Eve

Contact PHEve

np
-----
Feenie

1.1 vieled cham.- Stitch and Rana (Missing you,Chloe)
2.0 Panther chams- Lou and Yosamite Sam
1.0 Giant Day Gecko- Mr. Gecko
0.1 Aussi Whites Tree frog- Frumpy
1.0 Peacock tree frog- Igaro
0.1 Reeds tree frog- Dottie
0.0.2 New River Tinc. Dart Frogs- Tinker and Bell
2.2 Canines Junior-pitbull chiuahuah mix, Jose- chiuahuah, Pearl- Staffie, and Daisy- Red nose Pit- foster child
1.0 Fiance- Trent species unknown
and the list grows on.............

No problem.
I have had Pablo for 4 years now and he has been healthy ever since. He did stop eating about 2 months ago, and I researched the Parazap and all that I read indicated that it was impossible to overdose with it because it was "natural" whatever that meant. I also changed up his diet from his normal lobster roaches and he seemed to be fixed up in a matter of a week of so. Well now he just won't turn around...

When discussing his set-up,...he is in the same cage he has been in since I got him (4 feet high X 3 feet wide x 2 feet deep). Yeah he's livin large. In the cage is a big ficus benjamin and pothos that is running rampant and I cleaned the leaves and cage about 1 month ago. I am guilty of not changing his lights in over 2 years,...I never even thought about it until you said something.
The reason I thought he may have parasites is because I have a feeding container comprised of a cut-out milk carton that I put the roaches/crickets in and he can sit at the top and devour. Well one day I noticed he deficated in there and I figured that the roaches may have gotten infected by it, etc.

I was unable to go to the vet again today because of 2 reasons: #1 - no poo (I did the warm water trick and held him in there for a couple minutes and he just stared at me with hate) and #2 - we had a snow storm blow in around the time I was going to go (it's about an hour drive to the herp vet and we got about 4inches in 2hours).
I keep getting discouraged and don't want him to suffer anymore. I just don't know what else to do because I don't want to go without a fecal sample and risk stressing him out anymore if nothing will come of it.

A pic of young Pablo

Here's a pic of him smiling ...taken a while ago