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I just spoke to a very sharp lady named Eveyln Shaw who is sort of “spear heading” the effort to fight this proposed bill. She’s a reptile and exotic cat person.

Anyway, so far I know that someone in a political office in Crawford county got together with a member of the state house of representatives (email me for the name of the person) to try to get an exotic ban in effect.

If you currently owned one of the animals on the list, you could keep…BUT…you’d have to:

-pay $40 per animal
-pit tag and register your animals and address
-be open for 24 hr, no notice inspections (failure to do so would be grounds to issue a search warrant)
-NOT breed or get any more of the animals
-spay / neuter the animals (hmmm….reptiles?)

It gets better. If you have FRIENDS who have unregistered animals, you are OBLIGATED to rat them out, or you’ll never be eligible for any permit, (what kinda commie crap is that?)

There is a list in place of the “exotic animals” that would be effected, but…they are supposedly still adding to it. It’s funny, they do not phrase it “potentially dangerous exotic animals”, just “exotic animals”, but you can tell by the short list that they are trying (poorly, but trying) to create the list of dangerous, not all, exotics.

So far the reptiles specifically mentioned are:

- crocodile monitor
- nile monitor
- all members of elapidae
- members of boidae that reach lengths in excess of 8’

more to come on the list I’m sure….

Eveyln is a good person to have on our side. She has political experience, and has lots of contacts in politcs.
She is also articulate and smart…not real reptile knowlegable, (mainly a cat person)…she wants ME and maybe someone from NOAH…or anyone else who steps forward to represent reptile people.

Another note…she said they are trying to “break up” the animal people.
In other words…they may scheme to get something on the books that many people can live with…and then sneakily try to add animals a few at a time to it once it’s on the books to avoid mass numbers of upset people at one time.

More details as I get them….also, if anyone wants to get involved and would like to talk to Eveyln, email me and I will send you her phone #

Email to: herpconservation@hotmail.com

more herps on the list:

GREEN IGUANA
rhino iguana

Let me know what I can do to help with this. Working 24 hours on duty and 48 off usually frees me up during the week.

Thanks,

Todd Rosenhoffer

>>I just spoke to a very sharp lady named Eveyln Shaw who is sort of “spear heading” the effort to fight this proposed bill. She’s a reptile and exotic cat person.
>>
>>Anyway, so far I know that someone in a political office in Crawford county got together with a member of the state house of representatives (email me for the name of the person) to try to get an exotic ban in effect.
>>
>>If you currently owned one of the animals on the list, you could keep…BUT…you’d have to:
>>
>>-pay $40 per animal
>>-pit tag and register your animals and address
>>-be open for 24 hr, no notice inspections (failure to do so would be grounds to issue a search warrant)
>>-NOT breed or get any more of the animals
>>-spay / neuter the animals (hmmm….reptiles?)
>>
>>It gets better. If you have FRIENDS who have unregistered animals, you are OBLIGATED to rat them out, or you’ll never be eligible for any permit, (what kinda commie crap is that?)
>>
>>There is a list in place of the “exotic animals” that would be effected, but…they are supposedly still adding to it. It’s funny, they do not phrase it “potentially dangerous exotic animals”, just “exotic animals”, but you can tell by the short list that they are trying (poorly, but trying) to create the list of dangerous, not all, exotics.
>>
>>So far the reptiles specifically mentioned are:
>>
>>- crocodile monitor
>>- nile monitor
>>- all members of elapidae
>>- members of boidae that reach lengths in excess of 8’
>>
>>more to come on the list I’m sure….
>>
>>Eveyln is a good person to have on our side. She has political experience, and has lots of contacts in politcs.
>>She is also articulate and smart…not real reptile knowlegable, (mainly a cat person)…she wants ME and maybe someone from NOAH…or anyone else who steps forward to represent reptile people.
>>
>>Another note…she said they are trying to “break up” the animal people.
>>In other words…they may scheme to get something on the books that many people can live with…and then sneakily try to add animals a few at a time to it once it’s on the books to avoid mass numbers of upset people at one time.
>>
>>More details as I get them….also, if anyone wants to get involved and would like to talk to Eveyln, email me and I will send you her phone #
>>
>>Email to: herpconservation@hotmail.com
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U.A.P.P.E.A.L.
Uniting A Proactive Primate and Exotic Animal League

Unfortunately, I will be unable to attend, due to employment obligations- it's my 24 hour shift. I would appreciate it if I could be kept in the loop. I am more than willing to assist in any way possible.

Todd

Even people within the exotic animal chain can't even agree about what right's should be preserved and what shouldnt'! It's a damn shame.

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=963193,963618

>>I just spoke to a very sharp lady named Eveyln Shaw who is sort of “spear heading” the effort to fight this proposed bill. She’s a reptile and exotic cat person.
>>
>>Anyway, so far I know that someone in a political office in Crawford county got together with a member of the state house of representatives (email me for the name of the person) to try to get an exotic ban in effect.
>>
>>If you currently owned one of the animals on the list, you could keep…BUT…you’d have to:
>>
>>-pay $40 per animal
>>-pit tag and register your animals and address
>>-be open for 24 hr, no notice inspections (failure to do so would be grounds to issue a search warrant)
>>-NOT breed or get any more of the animals
>>-spay / neuter the animals (hmmm….reptiles?)
>>
>>It gets better. If you have FRIENDS who have unregistered animals, you are OBLIGATED to rat them out, or you’ll never be eligible for any permit, (what kinda commie crap is that?)
>>
>>There is a list in place of the “exotic animals” that would be effected, but…they are supposedly still adding to it. It’s funny, they do not phrase it “potentially dangerous exotic animals”, just “exotic animals”, but you can tell by the short list that they are trying (poorly, but trying) to create the list of dangerous, not all, exotics.
>>
>>So far the reptiles specifically mentioned are:
>>
>>- crocodile monitor
>>- nile monitor
>>- all members of elapidae
>>- members of boidae that reach lengths in excess of 8’
>>
>>more to come on the list I’m su

re….
>>
>>Eveyln is a good person to have on our side. She has political experience, and has lots of contacts in politcs.
>>She is also articulate and smart…not real reptile knowlegable, (mainly a cat person)…she wants ME and maybe someone from NOAH…or anyone else who steps forward to represent reptile people.
>>
>>Another note…she said they are trying to “break up” the animal people.
>>In other words…they may scheme to get something on the books that many people can live with…and then sneakily try to add animals a few at a time to it once it’s on the books to avoid mass numbers of upset people at one time.
>>
>>More details as I get them….also, if anyone wants to get involved and would like to talk to Eveyln, email me and I will send you her phone #
>>
>>Email to: herpconservation@hotmail.com
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U.A.P.P.E.A.L.
Uniting A Proactive Primate and Exotic Animal League

Any details from the meeting today?
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Kyle
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