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wftright Dec 09, 2005 06:30 PM

I cleaned my ball python's cage today and took the opportunity to upgrade a little bit. As usual, I welcome comments about what I'm doing. Maybe I'm progressing through a series of mistakes that every new owner makes, but I'm trying to take my ideas from what I read here in combination with what I see my ball python doing.

She's been using the hide that I made with Rep-Tiles from Nature Zone, so I decided to add more of them. I have one new one on the cool side of the cage so that she can hide in an area that has no heating. I'm guessing this area sees temperatures around 70 degrees. (I'll know next week when my PE-2 arrives from Pro-Exotics.) This one may not be as tight as she'd like. If she doesn't use it, I'll probably add a little more bedding under it to make it tighter.

I also added a branch for extra climbing space. She likes climbing her thermostat probe cord, but I think a branch would be more appropriate. The branch doesn't go far vertically, but I couldn't find another way to fit it in the cage. I'll likely change the branch later to give her more real climbing.

She likes hiding between her cool side water dish and the wall, but this area sometimes gets wet and stays wet when water sloshes from the dish. I've added bark to raise this side of the cage by an inch and a half or so. When water sloshes now, it will have room to drain or may just absorb into the bark. She also digs under that dish sometimes, so more bark will allow more digging.

I had put a tile into her hollow log a while back to make it a tighter hide. This time, I put the tile back on one side and put cypress mulch in the log on the other side. Again, the idea is to fill the log a little so that it will be a tighter hide for her.

I need to bend the big plant's stems downward a little more so that they'll give her better cover. The little red fake plant seems to fall apart a little more every time that I mess with it, but I still like it. Whoever told me that plants provide nice cover to let the snake move around the cage with more security is right.

I've put the cave hide back in the cage even though I have no evidence that she's ever used this hide. I don't know whether it's just too big for her right now or whether she dislikes it for some other reason.

In the future, I have my heart set on making this cage into a split level affair. A platform in the right place might hold heat and humidity that is currently leaving through the screen top.

Bill

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It's not how many snakes you have. It's how happy and healthy you can keep them.

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wftright Dec 09, 2005 06:41 PM

I have two more photos that I wanted to post.

The upper photo shows her climbing on the new branch and a branch that I've had for a while. This photo shows the tile hide where she's been most of the time for the past few weeks.

The lower photo shows one of the new tile hides propped on her cool side water dish. I don't know whether this one will be tight enough for her to use right now, but I can add more bedding underneath if necessary. This photo also shows the deeper bedding under this water dish.

These photos show what I think are "flames" on her sides, and some websites seem to make a big deal of these flame markings. I have no plans to breed her, but if the flames stay on her sides into adulthood and continue to be a desired trait, maybe I'll change my mind someday.

Bill

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It's not how many snakes you have. It's how happy and healthy you can keep them.

wftright Dec 09, 2005 06:43 PM

Now that I've cleaned her cage, she's bound to go to the bathroom soon. One thing I learned during the cleaning process is that she finds all kinds of strange places to leave those whitish urine pellets.
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It's not how many snakes you have. It's how happy and healthy you can keep them.

twps Dec 09, 2005 08:09 PM

Your setup is really coming along. Id say thats a pretty happy looking snake.

Jay
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Find a job you love, and you will never work a day in your life -Confucious
3.20 ball pythons
1.1 dumeril boas
1.1 rosey boas
0.0.1 pixie frog
1.1 dogs
0.2 cats
more fish than I can list.

quantim0 Dec 09, 2005 08:13 PM

That's a real nice set up you have going. I won't let mine see it, they're just living in tubs. Good luck when you have to clean it.
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0.0.1 Jayapura GTP
1.1 Pastel 50% het Ghost BPs
1.0 Orange Ghost
1.0 Anery Kenyan Sand Boa
0.1 Dumerils Boa
0.0.1 Cali King
0.1 Apricot Pueblan Milk
1.0 Crested Gecko

wftright Dec 09, 2005 09:27 PM

Thanks for the comment. You're right about the setup being a challenge to clean. I think I'll get better at it with practice. Eventually, I may just buy extras of all of the cage accessories. That way, I can change everything quickly and take my time letting stuff soak in chlorox or other cleaning solutions. Another point is that I'll have to remove some of it as my snake grows. Those little tiles are okay for hiding spots now, but they won't be big enough forever. When that happens, I'll have to simplify.

Bill
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It's not how many snakes you have. It's how happy and healthy you can keep them.

wftright Dec 09, 2005 09:22 PM

I see that you have Dumeril Boas. Is it true that they'll stop growing at about seven feet? If so, I'll put them on my list as another animal that I may try to get someday. However, the work of cleaning one cage today has me thinking that I don't need as many snakes as I'd like to have.

Bill
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It's not how many snakes you have. It's how happy and healthy you can keep them.

twps Dec 09, 2005 09:55 PM

Most books say more like 4-5 feet but most Ive seen look more like 5-6 feet. They really do make great snakes, I really like the ones that have alot of peach/pink color on them.
Doesnt hurt that they are really big docile babies that like to eat either LOL. Since the two duerils are 2/3rds of the snakes in my den I took some crappy pics of my male. The other third is of course a ball python who came named Spike who came to me as a rescue from a den mom of a frat house because her boys were not taking care of her.
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Find a job you love, and you will never work a day in your life -Confucious
3.20 ball pythons
1.1 dumeril boas
1.1 rosey boas
0.0.1 pixie frog
1.1 dogs
0.2 cats
more fish than I can list.

twps Dec 09, 2005 10:15 PM

ok nevermind no pics I tried upload 3 pics 3 different times and they are not uploading. Grrrr stupid computers.

Jay
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Find a job you love, and you will never work a day in your life -Confucious
3.20 ball pythons
1.1 dumeril boas
1.1 rosey boas
0.0.1 pixie frog
1.1 dogs
0.2 cats
more fish than I can list.

quantim0 Dec 09, 2005 11:48 PM

Dumerils boas are pretty cool. I haven't decided if I want to sell mine and dedicate her space to a BP. She won't eat f/t as of this moment and all my other snakes do. I have to get her switched or get rid of him. I don't want to go to the petshop once a week for one snake.

She's a pain about eating. He won't eat unless she's in a cardboard box, then in complete darkness, with a live rat pup. Anything else warrents a defensive strike and no feeding. Mine is also not the nicest of snakes, she goes into periods where I can't get near her without a bite, then she settles back down.
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0.0.1 Jayapura GTP
1.1 Pastel 50% het Ghost BPs
1.0 Orange Ghost
1.0 Anery Kenyan Sand Boa
0.1 Dumerils Boa
0.0.1 Cali King
0.1 Apricot Pueblan Milk
1.0 Crested Gecko

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