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Can anyone please post some of the best pictured examples of the Garazini, Bell, and NERD pastel lines? I am very undecided about which line I really want to get in to and want to keep a pure line going whichever I decide. I had my heart set on Garazini, but have seen some spectacular Bell's and NERD's. And has anyone heard of anyone trying to breed pastels into the Red Axanthic or Burgandy lines yet? I think it would produce quite a nice looking animal.

This is a pic of my proven breeder male...he's been locking up w/ the ladies like crazy this year! IMHO, the best line out there

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Isn't it cooler that serpent's don't walk anymore?
(Genesis 3:14)

I am not familiar with all of the BIG breeders yet. What is his website if possible?

Matt Turner and his partner are the ones who proved out the Blonde Pastel. I believe that since then, Matt has gotten out of the balls for the most part (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Most of the blondes out there now came through Eric Erb, who got his first from Matt.

For the most part, the blonde holds its color much longer than most any line out there (pastels lose their color as they age...you can see pastels that almost look normal in color b/c they've lost it).

I think the blonde is the best investment, and can be one of the prettiest pastels out there. Anyone feel free to rebuttle that, but I feel confident saying that. Good luck!
Jeremy
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Isn't it cooler that serpent's don't walk anymore?
(Genesis 3:14)

I wonder if this is another BP marketing myth -- "The Blonde Pastels hold their color better." I've heard this statement a BAZILLION times. I've also heard marketing myths on every Pastel line out there. Each line is the best.

The only mythless advice? Forget the bloodlines. Find a screamer Pastel. Buy it. Breed it. Make little baby screamer Pastels. And be happy.

Chris
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mean people suck

You might be right on that one....especially about finding the one screamer...whatever the bloodline. All I know is that my blonde is 3 yrs. old and is still very yellow...I know that one's rare
Jeremy
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Isn't it cooler that serpent's don't walk anymore?
(Genesis 3:14)

Here's another pic of the blonde...it showed up when I first posted it, but isn't showing up now... oh well...

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Isn't it cooler that serpent's don't walk anymore?
(Genesis 3:14)

PLEASE, can you show the pic???

I just looked and both pics were showing...now neither is showing...They're on geocities, so they might be working on the server or something...out of my hands, sorry.
Jeremy
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Isn't it cooler that serpent's don't walk anymore?
(Genesis 3:14)

Yahoo - is funny that way - if you get too much traffic on a site or file they shut down - best to upload them to your kingsnake account then link them.
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

7.33.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi - yeah I know but my kids love the book)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.2 frogs rescued from pool skimmer

Here is one that was produced here and is a Graziani Line pastel Female and is just SMOKING in my eyes.She is one of the best ones I produced in 2005

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Kelvin,J,Tourangeau

www.PastelDreamMorphs.com

You won't find many adult pastels with color like this...

I think the Graziani line is the best out there simply because it was the first line and it has been around the longest... allowing the animals to be selectively bred a lot longer. Otherwise I feel a pastel is pastel no matter what line.

I have my 2 lines of my own from two WC females and I don't think the pastels from them can compare. Just my opinion.

Oz
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OZZYBOIDS

np
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Isn't it cooler that serpent's don't walk anymore?
(Genesis 3:14)

"I think the Graziani line is the best out there simply because it was the first line and it has been around the longest... allowing the animals to be selectively bred a lot longer."

I can list several popular lines off the top of my head -- Bell, Graziani, Lemon, Blonde, VPI, BHB, and Stonewashed. It would be interesting to know the chronological order of these popular lines.

Does anyone know?

Chris
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mean people suck

You think?

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Matt Lerer
'Ghi Reptiles'
'Ghi Arboreals'

Yeah that one is so clean..it's pale looking...very nice.
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Charles Glaspie

Tanstaafl:
"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".
An acronym created by my favorite author Robert A. Heinlein.

I'm partial to the lemons myself, but Grazziani is nice also.

Quig

Here's a picture of a Graziani female at 1800 grams and a Bell female at 1100 grams they are both 1.5 years old.
First pic Bell line.

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Adrian
AFR
http://imageevent.com/afreptiles

That is the most BEAUTIFUL Pastel that I have ever seen [in a photograph]. A wonderful specimen. Thank you for sharing.

Chris
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mean people suck

Thanks Chris.

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Adrian
AFR
http://imageevent.com/afreptiles

What's up with the one on the bottom. That has to be a cinamin butterscotch ghost hypo somethin, somethin? It looks like it's brownish, are you sure you call it "just a pastel"?

I think I will take the one person's advice and just look for a SCREAMER male and go from there...lol

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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

7.33.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi - yeah I know but my kids love the book)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.2 frogs rescued from pool skimmer

Your voices don't like me??