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Hey, I was looking at classifieds and at VPI and saw the paradoxes, I've liked them for a while and am interested in producing them. What snakes would be needed to produce them? And what steps would i have to take?

P.S. I know my name's spelled wrong, lol

Well, if you are talking about paradox albinos, you simply need paradox albinos. If you are talking about paradox snows, you will need to be mixing the anery/axanthism trait with the paradox albino. Its the same as regular snows, just a different type of albino used.

So the only way to produce paradox albinos is to have them? Well that stinks. Thanks for the help.

Or, you could get 100% hets for the albino, or snow paradox like have.

Is the paradox something that just happens. If you breed a paradox pair does that garantee(sp) more paradox?

Quig
Curious in Michigan

No and Yes.... I doesn't just "happen" Every paradox sandboa in captivity is related in some degree to one single wild caught Dodoma flame import from Tanzania.. Like most forms of amelanism, the paradox amel mutation has been proven to be simple recessive.
You need the gene, to make more of the gene. It behaves the same way other other albino traits in snakes behave.

OK, thanks. They originated from the Dodoma Flame then?

Quig

Yes, the first Paradox albino was imported with a group of Dodoma Flames and is assumed to also be a flame.

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Not from THE dodoma flame, but from A single dodoma flame who was paradox albino.

Also if you breed a normal albino to a paradox albino, you get normal snakes. They are two different albino genes. If you know anything about albino leopard gecko, it's like that and how there are different albino types.

I'll say that the paradox albino is a much different looking albino I think than the normal albino kenyans. I have individuals of both and the paradox seems to have brighter orange (probably from it's Dodoma origin). Paradox snakes now for the most part have had the "normal", mutt kenyans bred into them so they are not pure dodoma. There are breeders working hard and patiently to put the dodoma back into this color phase.

It should also be noted that you can't buy dodoma flames and tada get paradox albinos. Maybe later on you can get MOSTLY dodoma het paradoxes, but to my knowledge there are no pure dodomas that are het albino.

However, if that original Dodoma Flame Paradox Albino that was imported is still alive, perhaps... however since no Pure Dodoma Paradox Albinos seem to exist right now I fear he is dead.

I'm not sure if the originall w/c is still alive or not, but my understanding is the Tracy Barker still has some that originated from that one and that it was bread to true Dodma flames which would mean there are some pure ones out there. keep in mind however that the originall w/c ablino parodox is only assumed to be from Dodma. It was included in a shippment of normals from that location but my understanding is that there is no way to be100% sure as no one has ever talked to the capturer personly.

unless we start gene maping sand boas by local...
I don't see anyone rushing to fund that... darn.