Does anyone have pictures of Orizabensis or Margaritae? If not I know where to plan my next vacation.
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Does anyone have pictures of Orizabensis or Margaritae? If not I know where to plan my next vacation.
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Chris Harrison
San Antonio, Texas
Found along the Veracruz-Minatitlan cuota just a few miles south east of where it joins the Veracruz-Cordoba quota.
Freshly hit 5-6 foot DOR. Found freshly hit around 11 am. The picture doesn't show it too well, but the whole snake was sort of gun-metal gray rather than black. Neat cribo.


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Chris Harrison
San Antonio, Texas
You are the man. That is awsome! Is there a way those can be added to the Indigo webpage? Looks like I will be going to an island off the coast of Venesuela!
I have offered them before to whoever wants to use them. I guess they don't want roadkills on the website?
The offer still stands.
In answer to your other question, Mexico doesn't export reptiles anymore for the pet trade.
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Chris Harrison
San Antonio, Texas
Road kill or not, those pics MUST be added to the website.
Eric
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The other question refered to the quest for a picture.
Very cool. Do you know if Mexico ever allows exports anymore (I know the rubidus in the US had to come from somewhere)?
Robert
I know Ottley used to bring in snakes from Mexico. There was a university link. He made some mistakes and the Legal system swallowed him up.
There have been a few individual export permits issued by the government of Mexico, I believe Alan Kardon was the last to obtain such, at least here in the U.S., and I am unaware of him bringing any D. m rubidus back. There was a small group brought into the U.S. some time ago, I believe they came in through Belize, though it is my understanding all of the specimens were in very poor condition and most, if not all, perished shortly after their arrival.
Most of the specimens here in the U.S. are the progeny of D. m rubidus produced by the likes of Bill Corwin and Dr. John Rossi, DVM back in the day when they were still being imported.
There are also a few European herpetoculturist working with D. m rubidus and they have exported a couple of specimens into the U.S.
The problem with exports from Mexico contends with their lack of participation as a member nation of CITES. The government of Mexico considered the development and maintenance of a government branch to oversee the regulations imposed by CITES charter nations as being too expensive to undertake, so they simply shut down the export of flora and fauna, though allowing for very specific individual permits to be granted, primarily for scientific and zoological purposes...
Best regards,
Jeff
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Jeff Snodgres
University of Arkansas
snodgresjeffreys@uams.edu
501.603.1947
On the margarita trip! 
"Wastin' away again in Margaritaville..."
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