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does it matter?

meltz Dec 13, 2005 04:50 PM

Does it matter if the froges in the same tank are of different collor. Say i have 4 leucomelas, but all are of different collor, does that matter much? And if so what could happen.

Replies (9)

slaytonp Dec 13, 2005 07:11 PM

What do you mean by a different color? Some of my leucs from the same clutch vary from yellow to rather distinctively orange, but this isn't considered a different morph, and these are perfectly "ethical" to keep together. There are strains that may be more or less reticulated and variously spotted, but I don't think there are any true morphs that have been definitely recognized and named, such as there have been with tincs, pumilios and the various thumbnails where people try to keep the original color morphs "pure," if possible.

Sorry, I thought this image included both orange and yellow color varieties among four sibling frogs, but I guess I never put that one in my Kingsnake gallery. I'll post it if I can find where I have it.

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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
4 P. terribilis
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus

slaytonp Dec 13, 2005 07:41 PM

O.K., I found it. These are just froglets in the photo, but the two on the right are more orange and became somewhat more orange as they matured. They are from the same clutch. Is this what you mean, or are yours more vastly different in coloration?

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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
4 P. terribilis
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus

meltz Dec 14, 2005 02:53 PM

Well im new to this so just still studing up on darts. I dont have any yet as i plan on getting some in about a year.

Like can leucomelas be red, and some other leucomelas be blue? or are the different kinds of darts all one collor each? like for exp- are all leucomelas green and yellow? and so on and so on?

meltz Dec 14, 2005 03:06 PM

also do leucomelas come in blue? I really want to get blue darts but also want to get a group together and i have heard that leucomelas are the best to have if your doing a group.

ncsudart Dec 14, 2005 04:57 PM

no, there is no blue leuc. however, if you are looking for a blue dart to keep in groups then you can keep blue/black auratus which also do well in groups. they are very shy though, initially at least.

meltz Dec 15, 2005 03:13 PM

Shy as in they will hide most of the time?

slaytonp Dec 15, 2005 07:28 PM

My blue auratus are extremely shy and until I designed a tank that had just the right amount of hides, I rarely spotted one. I have one in particular, that from the original group of froglets six years ago, I have only seen when I search them out to put in a different tank. I named him "Larry" after an old Garrison Keelor skit--his brother Larry has lived in the basement for 15 years and no one knew it. They have been hard to keep track of and monitor. They still are, but with the rather heavily planted, but open design I have now, they can sometimes be seen as a flash, and rarely just sitting there. Here is a rare photo of three of them together in a slapping contest--Larry is not present. Actually, mine are all females, so there isn't much stimulation for breeding activity, which might encourage more boldness.

On the upside, I do have all of the original group after six years, so they do eat and survive somehow, mostly I assume, when you aren't looking. They are pretty, but "pretty is as pretty does," as my grandma used to say.

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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
4 P. terribilis
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus

meltz Dec 16, 2005 12:17 PM

Ok so the leucomelas are the best when it comes to groups and being able to see them alot?

slaytonp Dec 16, 2005 08:31 PM

Considering everything from the relatively low cost of the leucomelas frogs, availability, ease of keeping, boldness, color, the fact that they use all areas of the vivarium, get along together in groups of both sexes, have a pleasant call, and are pretty tough, I don't think you can beat leucs for your first choice. There are certainly more interesting colors and even some darts, like the Galactonotus that are even more bold and actually seem intelligent, or the imitators, who are a real show to watch in a mixed breeding group, but none of these meets all of the requirements for a beginner frog I listed, especially cost and availability. It depends upon what you want and what you can afford to buy as a first dart frog.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
4 P. terribilis
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus

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