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I have been thinking of morph combination possibilies and I think I have figured out how I would produce what I would eventually try to get out of it. Let me know if you guys agree.
I'd like to one day produce a Pied Super Cinnamon. I could potentially produce it in this ways(correct me if I am wrong please)
#1.I would buy a 100% Het Pied Male
#2.Breed it to a normal female(producing poss. 50% hets)
#3.Keep the females and breed to 100% het male(and by the graces of God produce at least 1 pied male ...)
#4.Buy cinnamon females and breed to pied male.
#5. Keep any cinnamons(100%het pied of course) and breed them together to hopefully produce a super cinny pied.
I'd love to buy a pied to start this project but funds are low right now...LOL

that'll take 7 yrs
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0.1 CB Normal Ball Python

I know it's going to take at least that long(provided I have no subborn eaters) but I don't have 4-6K for a pied male and however much for a cinny male. I think I can swing the price for a 100% Het pied male and eventually a cinny male or females. I am not out to make a ton of $$$, just would like to set a goal of what I'd like to see come out of one of "my" eggs and do it. I am getting a Pastel male next month along with a couple of 1200 grm females and a 100% Het pied male to start with. I have one very nice clean "no alien heads" male right now that a friend and I are getting ready to breed to her 1700 grm female blackback.

since cinnamon is a co-dom trait, I would not waste all that time working for a male pied to breed to a few cin females.

I would go with one cin male breeding a few pied females.

JMO

TomChambers

Here is how I'd produce a Pied Super Cinnamon.

#1.I would buy a heterozygous pied male and either one or two cinnamon females, depending on the cash situation.
#2.Half the babies would be cinnamons that are 50% probability heterozygous pieds.
#3.Keep all the cinnamons of both sexes and maybe all the normal females, if cage space permits.
#4.Breed some of the cinnamon females to the heterozygous pied father to test those females for pied. Breed any extra cinnamon females to their cinnamon sibs. You may get lucky and hatch a pied from one of the cinnamon x cinnamon matings. If so, then both parents are heterozygous pied, and it's just a matter of time til a pied super cinnamon pops out.
#5. Mate proven cinnamon heterozygous pied females to their cinnamon brothers to test the males for pied. When you find a male and a female that are heterozygous pied, it's just a matter of time til they produce a pied super cinnamon.

Paul Hollander