Reptile & Amphibian Forums

Welcome to kingsnake.com's message board system. Here you may share and discuss information with others about your favorite reptile and amphibian related topics such as care and feeding, caging requirements, permits and licenses, and more. Launched in 1997, the kingsnake.com message board system is one of the oldest and largest systems on the internet.

Click here for Dragon Serpents
Click for ZooMed

Normal snake no longer wants to be normal . EXTREME IMG

morphed Dec 15, 2005 09:30 AM

She is a pastel sib from a NERD line Lemon male and a somewhat normal female. She looked like her sister for 2 months then decided to shed out half black and white. She has been like that for about 3 weeks now. There were no changes in her environment, nothing different with her food. She wasnt moved or kept to moist or dry. Just changed. Thought it was cool and id share it with you guys.
NARC Reptiles
Kim & Matt

Replies (15)

morphed Dec 15, 2005 09:31 AM

n/p

boy_wonder Dec 15, 2005 09:44 AM

np

doesnt_matta Dec 15, 2005 09:53 AM

so that's a really wierd one. do you have any idea what could've caused it? and have you decided what to call it if it proves out? chameleon-ball? yellow-back ball?

nice snake. cool colors.

ginebig Dec 15, 2005 10:03 AM

Ahhhh, who cares if she doen't wanna be normal LOL. She's a pretty one.

Quig

Corey Woods Dec 15, 2005 11:25 AM

Nice looking animal. She'll turn back to normal in about a year or so.

I personally believe it is some type of bacterial problem that causes them to lose pigment in their skin.

Regards,
Corey

morphed Dec 15, 2005 11:55 AM

I know IMGs are tricky. I am keeping my fingers crossed that she ends up like Rustys ball who kept to its color after maturing. The female i breed the male to has weird black paradox patches near her vent and up the side of her body, nothing spectacular but they are there. And every baby my male Lemon throws comes out like labryniths with really nice head pattern. Maybe something is there but i also highly doubt it, just thought she looked cool.Ill hold on to her and line breed when i can to eliminate the possibilty. I just found it weird that it diveded her body with the stripe down her back.
Thanks for everyones input.
NARC Reptiles
Kim and Matt

shinysnakeskin Dec 15, 2005 12:39 PM

its amazing how they can change like this. i personaly think its like a birth mark kinda trait. cause theres got to be something going on. a couple ball pythons have this color changing trait. so its got to be somewhat genetic?... i want to prove out my female. what sex is your snake? awsome too by the way.

ALL HAIL THE IMGS!!!

-----
Under a dead ohio sky,
Eleven has been and will be waiting,
Defending his light,
And wondering...
Where the hell have I been?
Sleeping, lost, and numb.
So glad that I have found you.
I am wide awake and heading home.
TOOL

shinysnakeskin Dec 15, 2005 12:47 PM

its got to be something besides a bacterial infection or something else that involves bacteria. imp.
cause im sitting here thinking... i have seen so many imgs that turn to this grayish creamy white, and black color while they are young. my female changed colors at around 11 months old. thats still pretty young to me.
if it was to be bacteria then i would ask this.. what do you house her in, questions like that. cause then you have to think about the newspaper, and mayber theres something wrong with the bin? who knows. there are many many possibilities.
i also have a question...
has any body ever tried to breed two IMGs together to see what will happen, and then breed the babies back to the parent?
thats my $0.02
Ssam
-----
Under a dead ohio sky,
Eleven has been and will be waiting,
Defending his light,
And wondering...
Where the hell have I been?
Sleeping, lost, and numb.
So glad that I have found you.
I am wide awake and heading home.
TOOL

morphed Dec 15, 2005 02:50 PM

The snake in the pics is a female . She is housed on aspen and changed every 2 days. The water bowls are bleached once a week and she is in a pvc rack with heat.

coldthumb Dec 15, 2005 04:48 PM

"The water bowls are bleached once a week"

Perhaps the water bowl had something to do with it then.
Are all of your water bowls the same?...Is hers different from the other bowls?(Maybe it has a more porous surface,and is retaining traces of the bleach,after it has been rinsed/?)

I say this because she appears to me to have retained normal coloring on areas of her body that would not have been covered by the water level in a half filled bowl(like a water line after high tide kinda thing...).

...just a thought.
-----
Charles Glaspie

Tanstaafl:
"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".
An acronym created by my favorite author Robert A. Heinlein.

morphed Dec 15, 2005 10:07 PM

No. they are all the same water dishes. We own over 600 balls and they are all taken care of the same way. We use ceramic crocks and it is a very diluted bleach substance.

viridisnakes Dec 15, 2005 02:33 PM

What does IMG stand for?

I have a baby born to wild cuaght gravid female ( whom had this coloration, just not as bright with much darker sides). The baby was hatched normal color but now looks like this.

BackBeat Dec 15, 2005 02:41 PM

I've seen both definitions used.

The irony of the name(s) being that most (if not all?) Increased Melanin Gene (IMG) Balls aren't GENEtic....lol

BB
-----
"Have you hugged your drummer today?" --- Me

Phi Dec 15, 2005 02:58 PM

That is pretty cool when that happens. It would be nice if they would stay like that. So far all of the ones that I've seen do this end up changing back to their normal coloration. It will be interesting to see how long this last.

Eric

samantha227 Dec 16, 2005 01:13 PM

Matt & Kim
Excellent!!!!!

Site Tools