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Ackie substrate debate

ackies-rule Dec 16, 2005 01:44 PM

My ackies is about 6 months and buries himself in at night, anyway i keep him in a glass fronted vivarium - so depth is limited. I keep him on wood chips at the moment, not the best start anyway, i planning on changing to soil with a layer of sand on top. Is there anything i should be aware of or not do. Any info on your set-ups and this post will be greatly appreciated.

Replies (8)

robyn@ProExotics Dec 16, 2005 02:30 PM

the soil would be good, but what's with the sand layer? why not a layer of peanut butter? or pickles?

skip the sand, and just go with a good soil. you don't need the layer of sand. or pickles.
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robyn@proexotics.com

Pro Exotics Reptiles

flavirufus Dec 16, 2005 07:28 PM

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ackies-rule Dec 18, 2005 05:29 AM

the sand would look better over the soil, and pickles. anyway another idea firstly could i not just use sand, they live on it in the wild. Also another idea how about a buried cat-litter tray full of soil for burying and the rest sand with a thin layer over the soil to make it look nice. thanks in advance.

drzrider Dec 18, 2005 08:57 AM

What ever you put in there will be mixed together in no time. Why not set the cage up for the monitors instead of what looks pleasing to your eye?

I mix sand and dirt together to make a burrowable substrate that looks good.

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Ed

ackies-rule Dec 18, 2005 12:37 PM

that substrate looks good is that soil and sand. Wouldnt either have to be sprayed rto keep moist and hold a burrow.

drzrider Dec 18, 2005 01:48 PM

This mixture is of cheap store bought dirt and play sand from Home Depot. I think it was about $4 for a 40 pound bag of dirt. I added a 50 pound bag of the play sand for every 2 bags of dirt. The sand was not leveling sand from the garden center. It was play smallest grain play sand sold to mix with cement.

I made the mixture wet when mixing and the bottom of the substrate stayed damp enough to burrow for a long time. It may take a few weeks for the dirt/sand to settle enough to hold burrows as well as in the pictures. I poured water in and remixed the substrate from time to time when needed.

This is a 3 foot argus with this mixture that I kept im my house.

Same argus on other side of the cage with the exact same substrait

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Ed

robyn@ProExotics Dec 20, 2005 12:08 PM

i think you misunderstand their natural habitat : )

"living on sand" would mean, like, sand DUNES. and that is not where they live. "desert" does not automatically mean sand. they live in soil.

and the good Dr. Z Rider is right, whatever you put in there is going to be mixed up and a mess regardless. you are trying to reinvent the wheel. don't worry about it being pretty to your eye.

once you have a good workable, usable, diggable soil, it WILL be pretty to your eye, because you will see it as a natural tool that the animal can use, and you will appreciate it for more than visual looks.

using a good soil is a "simple" approach, one that works well, and the animals can breed in it. it is proven. accomplish that first. once you have put time in, learning about what makes a good soil, at that point you can venture out and experiment (if you still have the desire). but start with the simple way first, not the hard way : )

best of luck.
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robyn@proexotics.com

Pro Exotics Reptiles

ackies-rule Dec 21, 2005 12:05 PM

thanks for the help everyone. Another question is bark mulch worth a shot, soil is going to be used but I dont know how much any information on your monitor substrates would help. thanks

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