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Does anyone out there, know if and when ocellated uros come in to the country. If they do who are the folks to talk to. Also anyone out there who has some, how are they as captives, its one of the few species I haven't had yet.

I'm not real sure about how often their imported but Sudan isn't a real stable country so they might not be coming in. I do work with them and have bred them though. The babies that we hatched out in 2004 are very tame and will crawl right up your hand. Imports tend to be skidish so I would stay with captive bred. One of the more colorful Uros next to the ornates. Also one of our favorites. They're worth working with but try and stay with captive bred.

that sounds somewhat encouraging, I'd like to get a 3-5 group going. Hopefully some good ones will come in, late winter or early spring, and it looks like you've already got an established group, i'll just wait for some hachlings or quality imports.

I received the ones we have from Lindsay Pike and Mark Walsh and
ALL are fantastic animals. Our breeder pair are 4yr LTC and we received them from Mark Walsh. We also have a group of 2003 captive hatch in 2003 from Lindsay Pike that will go in 2007. There is a big difference in LTC and our captive hatched as far as tameness. The ones we hatched out in 2004 I think were tame when they came out of the egg LOL. Good luck with them their realy cool.

I've got a nice group of saharans, and the males are already doing the mating dance daily, but the females are not ready yet. the three females have all produced before and are still young . Unbelievable colors, but all are fairly skittish. You can handle them when their cold but thats about it. Actually the longer I have them the calmer they get, hopefully in 3 months or so we'll have some kiddies, well eggs anyway.....
Are the ocellated as pricey as the ornates.....

Most CB Sudanese I've seen go from $150-$200 for babies. I don't think alot of people have seen them in person. Fully colored up males are fantastic. Our breeder male is emerald green with brite white spots. Our others are more blue with one being a powder blue with orange around the white spots(my favorite) and he'll crawl right up your arm. The babies we hatched out that we're keeping are starting to show some color. The females are more of a burnt orange with a slight blue tint to parts of their heads. They are about the size of ornates.

I saw a few years ago and yes they were beautiful, keep me posted if you hatch any or see any in the future, it would be nice to round out the collection with some of those guys.

Do you have any photos you could post? I have never seen one and they sound beautiful!

Elizabeth
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1.0 Mali Uro Archimedes (May he rest in peace)
0.0.1 Egyptian Uro Zuberi Mosca Khu (Mosca)
0.0 Fish
0.1 Sulcata Minnie
1.1 Iguanas Flik and Loki
0.1 Newfoundland Jasmine (RIP)
0.1 Feline Winter
Indiana & Wisconsin

I would love to but I haven't been able to put my pic from my camera software to a file in my computor so they can be downloaded to KS file. I don't know alot about them yet and a buddy is suppost to show me how. I will post them soon I hope. I think the Sudanese are underated. There are not very many people breeding them.

yearlings

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subadult male

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adult male

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Lindsay Pike
Urotopia Uromastyx

Oh WOW!

Now I can see what all the hoopla is about. They ARE a beautiful Uro! Good Luck to all of you with your programs!

Elizabeth
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1.0 Mali Uro Archimedes (May he rest in peace)
0.0.1 Egyptian Uro Zuberi Mosca Khu (Mosca)
0.0 Fish
0.1 Sulcata Minnie
1.1 Iguanas Flik and Loki
0.1 Newfoundland Jasmine (RIP)
0.1 Feline Winter
Indiana & Wisconsin

What's the uncommon physical characteristic(a scalation detail)
of an ocellata that helps distinguish it from other similar uro species?
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Lindsay Pike
Urotopia Uromastyx

They don't have the longer scales in front of the ears. More of a smooth scaleation around the ear. I think LOL.

YES. They don't have the little tiny row of bumps/spikes (denticulated scales)inside the forward edge of the ear opening. So they were sometimes called Smooth-eared Spinytail.
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Lindsay Pike
Urotopia Uromastyx

Thanks Lindsay for posting pics. The ones we received from you are fantastic and hopefully they'll breed in 2007. Our males would breed this season but the females are still not of size.
Bill

Hi Lindsay, is there any chance of any of these guys coming in, in the semi-near future, and will you have hatchlings this year, looking forward to working with them. If these do come in sporadically what is the usual time frame?

>>I'd like to get a 3-5 group going.

Be very careful. I've had ZERO luck combining females and have had outstanding terratorial behavior following egg-lay.
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uromastyx geyri (Saharan/Nigerian), hardwickii (Indian),
macfadyeni (Somalian), ocellata (Sudanese), ornata (Ornate), benti pseudophilbyi

I've also noticed this in our Mali and macfadyeni. We even had a female macfadyeni kill the male she was with. Our breeder female Sudanese nipped the tail tip off of the male after she laid. They had been together for almost a year and no problem. We now keep most of our Uros seperate untill breeding. We've also noticed this in our hatchlings at about 3-4 months old being nippy.

Macfads seem to be "easier" so far. The only female-male aggression in them is one that seems to resent his "enthusiasm". I was warned he was problematic to mate and kindof a sissy... but very cool.

While the Sudans and ornate have been physically hostile, the macfads have just been social intimidaters. I haven't seen the groups of females thing working at all. AFter talking with Debb and Lindsay earlier in the year, I found that purging and cleaning the cage where egg-lay occurred eliminated the aggressive female-male behaviors. The female in question was pleasant when removed, but nasty when reintroduced to the same environment, then pleasant again after cleaning.

I'm keeping almost all breeding pairs at this point with an occasional non-breeding third. Only one triple- geyri, as they seem to be more reasonable. Still looking for Benti
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uromastyx geyri (Saharan/Nigerian), hardwickii (Indian),
macfadyeni (Somalian), ocellata (Sudanese), ornata (Ornate), benti pseudophilbyi