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My last post on the subject. I promise. In the wild, many different species share the same habitat(Morlia viridis and Morelia spilota ssp, Varanus dumerili and Varanus salvator, Acrantophis dumerili and Acrantophis madagascariensis, Corallus caninus and Corallus hortulanus the list goes on) But these animals don't interbreed. Why? Because good ol' Ma nature tells them not to. And they listen. BIO-DIVERSITY RULES. And by the way does anyone expect Angolans to be imported in any numbers any time soon????????

Keep the bloodline pure or don't keep it at all.

Joe Jano
President and lone member
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Now THAT I agree with

Quig

We partial to Mother Nature and all her original designs to start with.

Actually hortulanus and canina have crossed in the wild
as have several other species. You have the right to your opinion, but you really should try to stick with facts and not feeling based opinions in your arguments. It makes you look ignorant. Also (although I may be wrong) I don't believe there have been any studies as to population density of anchietae, so your statements to their supposed rarity are based upon the fact they are not common in captivity.....well couldn't it be that they aren't imported due to political reasons rather than being a "rare" species. I have my own personal opinions on hybrids and more importantly the way that they are marketed and identified to potential buyers. But these opinions only matter to one person....me, so I won't go into them here, But I would be happy to continue the discussion with you in the hybrid forum....as would others i'm sure. Isn't it intereresting that species once considered distant from each other genetically have produced fertile young, makes you think that we know alot less about these animals than we think we do. A wise man once said...."if it isn't supposed to happen, it won't"

Good luck with your crusade....

Isn’t that “mystery ball” on the rear endpaper of Kevin’s book an incredible looking snake??? Wonder what it is...

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1I will be the first to tell you I don't know much about the Angolan python, in fact I saw my first one only a year or so ago. I have no idea how many there are, or how many people are breeding them.

But I find it hard to belive that if a few breeders cross them with balls, it "threatens the bloodline" as you said.

But if you do, then why not go get a pair, and make sure not to cross breed them?

Like everyone that posted before me, I think you dont know what you are taking about, and this is your openion. If its not by all means site the sources of this info you have so kindly enlightened us of. I always love to read a new study.

I also breed dart frogs, and its so funny how people are so against hybrids, yet it happens alot in nature. Everyone says they are all different species and should never even be housed togeather, yet once again... it happens all the time in nature. I am of the openion this is how many new species are formed.

"I am of the op(i)nion this is how many new species are formed."

Not that quickly, it doesn't. Take a LONG time for a new species to develop. Nature simply doesn't work that quickly.

Angolans.....Snakes of Southern Africa, by Johan Marais, 1992....says "This small, placid python is one of the rarest snakes in southern Africa..." It's not political...there just aren't many of them.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
1.1 Woma (Juvie female)
2.1 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.0 Angolan Juvie
1.1 Savu
1.1 Juvie Bloods
1.1 Juvie Balls
1.1 IJ Carpets
1.1 Coastal Carpets
1.2 Macklotts
1.1 Papuan Olives
1.0 Jungle Carpet
2.2 Scrubs (on breeding loan)
0.1 Jungle/Diamond cross
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC