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PLEASE LET ME KNOW SEXES

herp-keeper Dec 22, 2005 11:32 PM

I'm sure the second one is a male, and the first one i think is a female. but their attitude towards eachother sure doesnt show that its a female.
please let me know what you think.
im going through alot of trouble trying to figure out what to do with these two.

Replies (7)

Rien Dec 23, 2005 02:16 AM

The top picture is a female and the bottom is a male, for sure. Or at least, for sure if they are both a year old.

BlueLeo Dec 23, 2005 01:52 PM

first looks to be female and the second is male. Some male and females just don't get along.

aliceinwl Dec 23, 2005 02:01 PM

You may have a male that wants to breed and a female that doesn't. I've also seen these type of injuries occur when one leo wants the bug the other leo is eating. Have you witnessed these attacks? If you haven't or you suspect they are food related, you can try separating them at meal times and see if that fixes things. You can also try adding a second female (make sure you quarentine first). When I put togeter permanent breeding groups, I like to put the male with at least two females. This way all his attentions are not centered on one female. If you do decide to add a second female, do a cage cleaning and rearrange the furniture first. By doing this, you kind of reset the territories and she is less likely to be attacked by the resident female.

-Alice

herp-keeper Dec 23, 2005 03:15 PM

Actually, i DO have 2 females.
One male and 2 females in the cage.
all over a year.
and these attacks never happen at feeding time its always just at any given time.

aliceinwl Dec 23, 2005 09:28 PM

The only suggestion I have since that is the case, is to make sure you have lots of hides and visual barriers so that the female can avoid him. If the male's behavior continues or escalates, I'd recommend removing the bullied female. You could try to re-introduce her when she's ovulating and more likely to be receptive to the male's advances.

Some males and females will never get along. I have a female that "masculinized". She was at least 10 years old at the time and she developed buldges, started beating up the male and mating with the females (she'd laid eggs for the previous 6 years I'd had her). The females she bred with never produced fertile clutches, and from that point on all my males have treated "her" as another male and she's never laid another egg. She's been living the single life for the last two years. Although she appeared to have developed hemipenes, I don't think that the musculature to retract them was as well developed and she was prone to prolapses.

-Alice

Gazz Dec 23, 2005 03:00 PM

Pic 1 is (female).Pic 2 is (male).
I'm sure it's just sex he want's she dose't spit them for a for about two weeks then put the female into the male tank/viv she won't be so [bleep]y to to him and he'll like her better.

KN03 Dec 26, 2005 02:10 AM

ok if i was you then this is what i would do. I would separate the male from the females. Then i would let them cool(decrease the temp to a cooler "winter temp" i would leave them like this for a least 3 weeks to a month, during this time they have decreased feeding and hours of light. Once you think that they have had enough bring them back up to a slightly warmer temp thats about maybe like 3-5 degrees less then summer temp, this is "spring". Ok keep them separated and bring them back up to weight by feeding them a little more than you usually do during "summer"(make sure you give the females lots of calcium in their dustings). Now Increase the temp in your breeding cage and introduce the into the cage while the females are in the cage(make sure there's enough room for all three. This should work because it stimulates actual breeding seasons and stuff that happens in the wild.

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