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I don't know if this is the right forum, because the false water cobras are slightly(rear fanged) venomous. But, here are my babies anyway

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------Misty-------
5.12 Corn Snakes --- 1.0 Tokay Gecko
2.1 King Snakes --- 1.0 House Gecko
1.2 leopard Geckos --- 0.0.1 Golden Tegu
1.1 Bearded Dragon --- 0.0.1 Savanna Monitor
1.1 Green Iguana --- 0.1 Chinese Water Dragon
0.1 Crocodile Gecko --- 1.1 False Water Cobras
1.1 Jungle Corn --- 1.0 Ball Python
0.1 Kenya Sand Boa --- 0.1 Rose Hair Tarantula
1.1 Emperor Scorpions --- 3.0 Ferrets
1.1 Congo African Grey (parrot)--- 0.1 dog
0.0.3 Prairie Ringneck Snakes --- 1.0 blue tongue skink
1.2 rats babies --- always changing # of mice(snake food)

those are realy prety how old are they

We've had them for abou4 months tops. I am not sure when they hatched, though. I got them from the serpetarium in Lodi, Ca. They breed them. These guys get huge, so I imagine they are not that old. Sorry fo no exact age
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------Misty-------
5.12 Corn Snakes --- 1.0 Tokay Gecko
2.1 King Snakes --- 1.0 House Gecko
1.2 leopard Geckos --- 0.0.1 Golden Tegu
1.1 Bearded Dragon --- 0.0.1 Savanna Monitor
1.1 Green Iguana --- 0.1 Chinese Water Dragon
0.1 Crocodile Gecko --- 1.1 False Water Cobras
1.1 Jungle Corn --- 1.0 Ball Python
0.1 Kenya Sand Boa --- 0.1 Rose Hair Tarantula
1.1 Emperor Scorpions --- 3.0 Ferrets
1.1 Congo African Grey (parrot)--- 0.1 dog
0.0.3 Prairie Ringneck Snakes --- 1.0 blue tongue skink
1.2 rats babies --- always changing # of mice(snake food)

thanks

p.s. fwc could be on eather form

You are taking a huge risk here. While this snake is not "highly" venomous and the risk of a harsh envenomation by this species is unlikely, you have to also consider the possibility of an allergic reaction to this snakes venom which is actually worse than the bite is to begin with. The fact that you are displaying a venomous snake being freehandled is quite irresponsible on your part. For the sake of the hobby...my request is to start using proper handling tools for your hots.

Best Wishes,

Chris

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>>------Misty-------
>>5.12 Corn Snakes --- 1.0 Tokay Gecko
>>2.1 King Snakes --- 1.0 House Gecko
>>1.2 leopard Geckos --- 0.0.1 Golden Tegu
>>1.1 Bearded Dragon --- 0.0.1 Savanna Monitor
>>1.1 Green Iguana --- 0.1 Chinese Water Dragon
>>0.1 Crocodile Gecko --- 1.1 False Water Cobras
>>1.1 Jungle Corn --- 1.0 Ball Python
>>0.1 Kenya Sand Boa --- 0.1 Rose Hair Tarantula
>>1.1 Emperor Scorpions --- 3.0 Ferrets
>>1.1 Congo African Grey (parrot)--- 0.1 dog
>>0.0.3 Prairie Ringneck Snakes --- 1.0 blue tongue skink
>>1.2 rats babies --- always changing # of mice(snake food)
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U.A.P.P.E.A.L.
Uniting A Proactive Primate and Exotic Animal League

The people who breed them handle them the same way. I am not allergic to anything. I also handle my scorpions and tarantulas. The bite is like a bee sting. But, thanks for the warning. I pay attention to the warning signs. Who knows, I might change my ways once I get bit!

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------Misty-------
5.12 Corn Snakes --- 1.0 Tokay Gecko
2.1 King Snakes --- 1.0 House Gecko
1.2 leopard Geckos --- 0.0.1 Golden Tegu
1.1 Bearded Dragon --- 0.0.1 Savanna Monitor
1.1 Green Iguana --- 0.1 Chinese Water Dragon
0.1 Crocodile Gecko --- 1.1 False Water Cobras
1.1 Jungle Corn --- 1.0 Ball Python
0.1 Kenya Sand Boa --- 0.1 Rose Hair Tarantula
1.1 Emperor Scorpions --- 3.0 Ferrets
1.1 Congo African Grey (parrot)--- 0.1 dog
0.0.3 Prairie Ringneck Snakes --- 1.0 blue tongue skink
1.2 rats babies --- always changing # of mice(snake food)

There have been at least two moderate/severe envenomations attributed to this species. You do not have to be allergic to venom for it to cause you serious problems. Keep in mind for many years both boomslangs and Twigs were considered harmless. The effects from a juvi. defensive bite might very well be mild, let a subadult get a hold of you with a feeding response bite and see what happens. They are your animals, but I would be more careful if I were you, not for the sake of the hobby...for your own sake. Great looking animals by the way.

Horridus@aol.com

"for the sake of the hobby" I deleted the pics. Didn't mean to cause an uproar
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------Misty-------
5.12 Corn Snakes --- 1.0 Tokay Gecko
2.1 King Snakes --- 1.0 House Gecko
1.2 leopard Geckos --- 0.0.1 Golden Tegu
1.1 Bearded Dragon --- 0.0.1 Savanna Monitor
1.1 Green Iguana --- 0.1 Chinese Water Dragon
0.1 Crocodile Gecko --- 1.1 False Water Cobras
1.1 Jungle Corn --- 1.0 Ball Python
0.1 Kenya Sand Boa --- 0.1 Rose Hair Tarantula
1.1 Emperor Scorpions --- 3.0 Ferrets
1.1 Congo African Grey (parrot)--- 0.1 dog
0.0.3 Prairie Ringneck Snakes --- 1.0 blue tongue skink
always changing # of mice and rats(snake food)

My point here is, you mentioned in your original posting that these are known as "venomous". While I completely understand that these snakes are not really considered "highly toxic" or even remotely "dangerous" as far as venomous snakes are concerned, it is ALWAYS a good idea to use proper handling equipment when you handle a venomous snake (especially when showing a public photo). If you want to freehandle privately, that is your right, but when you freehandle a venomous snake and show it to the general public or other "not to knowledgeable" keepers...they are only seeing that you are freehandling a venomous snake and therefore think that they are OK to do that with. I know that you dont feel that you are allergic to anything, and that is great, because as far as I know I am not either. However, you dont know that for sure UNTIL you get bit. Every time a hot keeper gets bit and ends up in the hospital (whether it be due to the bite itself or anaphylactic shock) it ends up on the front page of the local dispatch.

I think it's great that you wanted to share the photos and I think the snakes are beautiful. I would certainly like to see more photos, but I think it would be better if the photos were taken in side of the enclosure or while being handled with a hook just so you dont give inexperienced or unknowledgeable keepers the "wrong ideas". I wish you great luck with the FWC's and I hope you will keep us updated on their health and growth progress.

Best wishes,

Chris

>>"for the sake of the hobby" I deleted the pics. Didn't mean to cause an uproar
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>>------Misty-------
>>5.12 Corn Snakes --- 1.0 Tokay Gecko
>>2.1 King Snakes --- 1.0 House Gecko
>>1.2 leopard Geckos --- 0.0.1 Golden Tegu
>>1.1 Bearded Dragon --- 0.0.1 Savanna Monitor
>>1.1 Green Iguana --- 0.1 Chinese Water Dragon
>>0.1 Crocodile Gecko --- 1.1 False Water Cobras
>>1.1 Jungle Corn --- 1.0 Ball Python
>>0.1 Kenya Sand Boa --- 0.1 Rose Hair Tarantula
>>1.1 Emperor Scorpions --- 3.0 Ferrets
>>1.1 Congo African Grey (parrot)--- 0.1 dog
>>0.0.3 Prairie Ringneck Snakes --- 1.0 blue tongue skink
>> always changing # of mice and rats(snake food)
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U.A.P.P.E.A.L.
Uniting A Proactive Primate and Exotic Animal League

I take your point. Thanks
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------Misty-------
5.12 Corn Snakes --- 1.0 Tokay Gecko
2.1 King Snakes --- 1.0 House Gecko
1.2 leopard Geckos --- 0.0.1 Golden Tegu
1.1 Bearded Dragon --- 0.0.1 Savanna Monitor
1.1 Green Iguana --- 0.1 Chinese Water Dragon
0.1 Crocodile Gecko --- 1.1 False Water Cobras
1.1 Jungle Corn --- 1.0 Ball Python
0.1 Kenya Sand Boa --- 0.1 Rose Hair Tarantula
1.1 Emperor Scorpions --- 3.0 Ferrets
1.1 Congo African Grey (parrot)--- 0.1 dog
0.0.3 Prairie Ringneck Snakes --- 1.0 blue tongue skink
always changing # of mice and rats(snake food)