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05 Kisatchie Corn / Elaphe Slowinskii

Steve_Craig Dec 29, 2005 09:01 PM

Picked up a pair of Kisatchie corns from Jim Sargent, from Split Rock Reptiles. These are Brazos co. Tx locality. Here is the female.

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Steve_Craig Dec 29, 2005 09:05 PM

And here is the male. Both are some big hatchlings by corn standards. More in line with an Emoryi Rats as far as hatchling size. Thanks for looking.

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Steve_Craig Dec 29, 2005 09:06 PM

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ratsnakehaven Dec 30, 2005 10:06 AM

>>Picked up a pair of Kisatchie corns from Jim Sargent, from Split Rock Reptiles. These are Brazos co. Tx locality. Here is the female.
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Steve, those are great looking snakes from Brazos County, and they get quite large, I believe. I wouldn't mind picking up a pair myself

The emoryi (G.P. rat) can be found only about 30 miles west, I think I remember, and I don't think there's an intergrade zone in Brazos Co. I believe they're more closely related to guttatus than emoryi, and in my mind they're not a separate species. Just my opinion

TC

Steve_Craig Dec 30, 2005 04:13 PM

>>Steve, those are great looking snakes from Brazos County, and they get quite large, I believe. I wouldn't mind picking up a pair myself>The emoryi (G.P. rat) can be found only about 30 miles west, I think I remember, and I don't think there's an intergrade zone in Brazos Co. I believe they're more closely related to guttatus than emoryi, and in my mind they're not a separate species. Just my opinion

Steve_Craig Dec 30, 2005 06:37 PM

The adult breeders are pretty huskey. I believe Split Rock has some more left.
That's pretty interesting with Emoryi being just 30 miles to the west. The adult breeders of my hatchlings are from the Bryan/College Station area of Brazos co. I believe that locality is the extreme western range of the cornsnake.
Anyway, I like keeping emoryi rats so much, I figured these slowinskii would be a nice addition to the collection.

Steve

>>Steve, those are great looking snakes from Brazos County, and they get quite large, I believe. I wouldn't mind picking up a pair myself

The emoryi (G.P. rat) can be found only about 30 miles west, I think I remember, and I don't think there's an intergrade zone in Brazos Co. I believe they're more closely related to guttatus than emoryi, and in my mind they're not a separate species. Just my opinion

ratsnakehaven Dec 31, 2005 06:16 PM

>>The adult breeders are pretty huskey. I believe Split Rock has some more left.
>>That's pretty interesting with Emoryi being just 30 miles to the west. The adult breeders of my hatchlings are from the Bryan/College Station area of Brazos co. I believe that locality is the extreme western range of the cornsnake.
>>Anyway, I like keeping emoryi rats so much, I figured these slowinskii would be a nice addition to the collection.
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>>Steve

I'm home from AZ and I got the new field guide out, "Texas Snakes", by Dixon and Werler, 2005, U of Texas Press. They call it "Slowinski's Corn", Elaphe guttata slowinskii. It says that Vaughan, Dixon, and Thomas, 1996, confirmed it as being a corn snake, and Burbrink, 2002, recognized it as a distinct taxon.

In the habitats section it is said to be found as far as 40 miles west of Brazos Co. and for 135 miles south near Port Lavaca. I've seen photos of a dozen, or more, specimens from East TX, and also specimens from along the Gulf Coast as far south as Corpus Christi that look a lot like "slowinskii". It's my belief that this snake is more closely related to the corn snake than the Great Plains ratsnake, but that it may intergrade with the G.P. rat along the coast.

Great little snakes. I'm anxious to find out what size clutches and eggs they produce. Thanks...TC

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