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is this the desert kingsnake?

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is this the banana califonia kingsnake?

pic#1 could be a type of cali found in a desert.

pic#2 some people would call that a banana cal, but it depends who you talk to.
Here's a baby banana


thanks for looKING and Happy New YEAR

The first snake is a banded California Kingsnake.......

The second snake is a striped California Kingsnake.....

Kerby...

A different species than the California Kingsnake

Kerby...

sub-species,don't you? and some californiae are found in deserts.

Kerby...

my kingsnake is thin banded and band is yellowly

Pure and simple.

Kerby...

hey Kerby what is the 50/50 banded desert in your educated opinion i have a couple and was under the impression that they were Desert variety??? Chris ...Happy new year.............

50-50's can be found in numerous places.....California, Nevada and Arizona. There IS NOT ONE ORIGIN.

Kerby...

without a origin there is no starting point, example: perhaps all caiforniae originated from splendida(theory).

and this is a desert king L. g. splendida....Happy New Year everyone!!!
Todd Hughes

The first one is a normal california kingsnake, it is the naturally occuring morph reffered to as the "coastal phase" cal king. They typically are more brown/yellow while the desert phase are the black/white colors.

The second is also a normal cal king, but it is the striped variant with coastal phase coloration.
Brian

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RATS
1.0 Corn snake "Warpath"(KY locale)
1.0 Black rat snake "Havok" (KY locale)
1.1 Black rat snakes "Reaper and Mystique" (MO locale)
1.0 Albino Black rat snake "Malakai" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Everglades rat snake "Deadpool" (Dwight Good stock)
0.1 Greenish rat snake "Rogue" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Great plains rat snake "Reign Fire" (TX locale)
1.0 Grey rat snake "Punisher" (White oak phase)(Dwight Good stock)

Good luck and Happy Herping
Brian

**The first one is a normal california kingsnake, it is the naturally occuring morph reffered to as the "coastal phase" cal king. They typically are more brown/yellow while the desert phase are the black/white colors.**

Unless he has locale specific info, then it is just a banded cal king, not coastal and not desert. Your descriptions above are not bound by locales. Where I live in Arizona (5,000 ft elevation) I can find both black & white and brown & yellow. There is nothing "coastal" nor "desert" about them (unless that is where they came from), nor is the habitat in which they are found.

Kerby...

Once again Kerby is on the mark!!! The only generalization that can be made about California Kings is that you can't make generalizations. As soon as you make a generalzation from a specimen you can find an exception. that's my $0.02.

Pat

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