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I think it is the Axanthic, and possibly the double het snows. Tons of new white snakes out there, but how many white snakes have actually BEEN PRODUCED.? Sure, there are more ways TO produce them now, but how many have actually been hatched out? I think the True Ghost project will be (bleep)in too, plan on getting into it if my het Axanthics produce an Axanthic for me this year.

I don't know, I've never been that impressed with the looks of the axanthics myself. I know they are essential in certain crosses and I certainly like the snows, but by themselves they don't do much for me. I do have some hets from an unproven line (thanks again Joe) But I'm more interested in what an axanthic can do for other projects rather then as a project by itself.

For underated, I'd have to go with the pastels. The prices are dropping on them fairly fast, yet there really aren't all that many superpastels out there.

Mark

>>I think it is the Axanthic, and possibly the double het snows. Tons of new white snakes out there, but how many white snakes have actually BEEN PRODUCED.? Sure, there are more ways TO produce them now, but how many have actually been hatched out? I think the True Ghost project will be (bleep)in too, plan on getting into it if my het Axanthics produce an Axanthic for me this year.

>>For underated, I'd have to go with the pastels. The prices are dropping on them fairly fast, yet there really aren't all that many superpastels out there.

This won't last for long. I bet there will be more Super Pastels in two years than there are albinos or axanthics. Well, at least putting in a good challenge.
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Jay A. Martin
Jay Martin Reptiles

I said it a year ago and I'll say it now too - I still think clowns are highly underrated - but don't tell anyone I still want to produce a few before someone starts assembly line breeding them!
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

10.35.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi - yeah I know but my kids love the book)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.1 Lizard rescued from feline
0.0.0 frogs rescued from pool skimmer

Caramel Albino!!! Come on guys start throwen them bad boys so the price will come down. For me their is just something about red pupils on a minimum melanin patterned snake! I wish I had red pupils that would be the shisssned!!!!

I'd have to agree with Tosha on the clown. I love the clown by itself, but I think the pastel clown is SO sweet.

Morphs I think are underrated:
Clown
Ghost
Axanthic
Genetic Stripe
Yellow Belly
Granite
Woma (isn't THAT underrated...)
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Ryan Farris

I'd have to say the Het Red Axanthic.

This is a proven co-dominant black back that has almost a cinnamon-ish appearance in terms of pattern and color. When bred to a pastel by Corey Woods it produced a beautiful, almost pewter-like "Pastel Het Red Axantihc." When bred to another Het Red it produces a super form, the Red Axanthic.

I'm looking forward to other new crosses in 2006 and 2007 that will begin to bring the Het Red Axanthic more into the forefront as a key to making really cool designer morphs.

Wishing everyone a happy and healthy 2006.
Peace!
Python Joe

Mojave's! Look at the price! They have produced lucys, the crystal, the paradox hypo.........plus look at the mojave spider. The Mojave clown will look amazing. But the price seems to go down every month. As for clowns and het red axanthics being underated I don't know........the prices say otherwise!!

By far in my opinion the most underated morph is a yb. Think about what you can do with one breeding it to weird looking imports. Its produced superstripes and an ebony and some other great combos!
Think about it if you get a pair of yb you can make an ivory and if ya breed you ivory to say a granite more ebonys for you

I also think the clown is highly underated as well as the pinstripe. i mean look at the crosses they have made.

But the best bargain is a YB

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the post was about under rated morphs. No body thinks the clown is under rated. It is being crossed into whatever the breeder has to make crosses and more crosses. The only problem with clowns is that those who have them are keeping them for themselves. Any snake that is holding the same value or going up each year is not under rated.
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2.3 het pied (RDR, alan bosch x 2, BHB x 2)
1.1 het albino (ben siegel, gulf coast)
1.2 het citrus ghost(gulf coast line)
1.0 citrus ghost (gulf coast line)
0.1 graz pastel female
1.6 05 normal bp's
0.6 04 normal bp's
2.5 adult normal bp's (some need breeding to see if norm)
4 various corns
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa (alan bosch)
1.0 american pit bull terrior
1.1 taco dogs (ankle biters)
1.0 grey cat
1.1 bearded dragons

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrior as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

I am kind of biased, but there are many crosses still to be had with a pin. And, maybe if we are lucky, someone will produce a super this year. I think the Caramel/Pin will look sweet. Maybe we'll see that this year as well. I also like Axanthics and hope to cross it with, What else?, a pin.

Good luck to all this season,

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Tim and Monica Bailey
Bailey & Bailey Reptiles