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Hello,

for all of those, who wanne see something different and not another color-morph or other common stuff.

Here are two milks, please ID!
Number one: I do have full locality data on this and keep 1.1 adults and 1.2 babies.

Number two: A different ssp. and an unusual one I guess.

Good luck and please don't cheat and use my web-site,

Gerrit
Lampropeltis - Koenigsnattern

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http://www.lampropelten.de.vu

Hey Burnsy, I'm gonna geuss Conant's on top and a Ecuadorian on the bottom, I'm not looking at your web site but I looked at an old milksnake book I have!

The full pics didn't download for some reason.

My guess, Sinaloa & arcifera...

Picture number 1 - Lampropeltis triangulum conanti (Conants Milk)

Picture number 2 - Lampropeltis triangulum oligozona? (Pacific American Milk)

My guesses
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Cameron

well i'm too lazy to egt up and sift thru my good milk books...so i'll go with my gut instinct responses here....top=sure looks like nelsoni to me....bottomi know it's a crazy guess,but i want to say a very abberrant campbelli,i guess it's the short red triads,and the black face/head.

I'll agree with someone else here (sorry forgot to see who it was)
1. conanti
2. campbelli

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1. Lake Chialpa
2. Arcifera

The first is conanti, and the second is oligozona.

Oops, I looked at your website first

(hey, that stuarti on your site is a beauty. Are they all that nice?)

seeing that you looked at the site and got those names, that means my geusses above were right. Wow i never would have thought i got the second one right. Thats pretty cool.

Awesome snakes they are
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Cameron

Your awesome! Seeing how the only way to know for sure they are oligozona is if you went to " the village of Tehuantepec in Oaxaca" and caught them yourself!!

Ive never been there, the reason i knew what it was is a friend who lives in Ma has been writing a book on more rare species of milksnakes and he sent me some pictures he had of many milks and that was one of them. I understand if you dont believe me, but im not lieing.
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Cameron

i also have a milksnake site under my favorites with many species of milksnakes and i looked through all the ones i knew werent it and there it was Lampropeltis triangulum oligozona. That was after i talked to my friend to make sure he was correct.
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Cameron

......you're in the wrong country

Scott

n/p

Number 2 looks kind of like annulata or celaenops to me.

......but no cigar yet

Scott

I would like to know how anyone can come up with a solid answer when it resembles about ten different subspecies. Without knowing the locality I think the only way to narrow it down is by adult length and if it turns black or not!

......2 to 4 days you'll have what you need to I.D. this in your mailbox

#2 does not turn black as an adult. And length wouldn't help you with it either.

Scott

>>......you're in the wrong country
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>>Scott

that says what you got when you cheated thats how i got my answers. I didnt use his website i used a milksnake reference page and looked at them all and they are almost identical and if the page with the real answers is what you and i put then you couldnt be wrong
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Cameron

Hi Cameron,

where did you get your infos from? Which website are you referring to?

Greets,
Gerrit

Lampropeltis - Koenigsnattern

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http://www.lampropelten.de.vu

It isnt much info per say but it is the average full length of the species and pictures of each one. Heres the site http://www.pitt.edu/~mcs2/herp/Lampropeltis.html
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Cameron

Hello,

and from that pic your decision is oligozona?
Believe me, you are wrong, the snake I pictured is adult and around 20 inches in size, that's not enough for an oligozona.

Greets,
Gerrit
Lampropeltis - Koenigsnattern

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http://www.lampropelten.de.vu

Hiya Gerrit, what is the locality of #2 and is it from the Vise line? Can you send me pics of the adults if you have any?
Thanx, Jeff

#2 is a louisiana milk snake

Hello again!
Ok, it's finished.
Conanti and amaura.
Hope you enjoyed the game, want some more?
Gerrit

Lampropeltis - Koenigsnattern

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http://www.lampropelten.de.vu