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is 12x12 acceptable for a pair of tincs?

thank you

What is the third measurement?

5 gallons per frog is the bare minimum for Dart Frogs.
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Josh Willard
www.joshsfrogs.com

I figured a cube design of 12"

an exoterra terrarium. they also have the 18x18

thanks for the quick reply!

I'd go for the 18" X 18" because you can do more with the terrarium plants and design, as well as control the humdity and heat better, make a background where they can climb around a bit. The little cubes are great for nursery tanks for froglets, but darts in general utilize quite a bit of space, as they are active frogs. As usual, I agree with Josh, 5 gallons per frog is minimum.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
4 P. terribilis
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus

Hi:

Have you had a chance to look at the Exoterra Viv front opening tanks? Sure is nice, but the cracks between the door, and other glass parts would be big enough to let the ff escape. I was thinking about getting one, but I wondered how I could make it FF tight. We'd probably have to use some weather stripping, but that wouldn't look too nice with all that unframed glass. Might disrupt is seamless look. If you figure out a way to seal it nicely, please pass on the how-to.

What frogs are you going to get? At any rate, I'd agree a larger one will be nicer all around and give you a chance to really create an environment with lots to look at.

Maggie

that is a great point. I had not thought of that. I would think a rubber strip or something would take care of it. As far as the looks..i thought the doors looked sorta ugly anyhow (and blocked sight) and was planning to show the tank from the side.

I think what I'll do is get the 18x18 version and see what it looks like. If it does not work the way I want - i can always put my crested in it.

then again - i could just stick with a nice 20G and save cash. and have a more standard tank set up.

Another thing to consider with those exo-terra tanks is that they have a screen top. That will let out too much humidity. If you are up for the construction, a 20 gallon vert with a front opening can be made for less than $50.
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Josh Willard
www.joshsfrogs.com

do you have a link to how to construct the front?

Hey Iso:

I think if you do a search of old topics a bunch of us talked about constructing a ten gallon into a vertical front opening. I vaguely remember that Peace of the Tropics, Vivarium Concepts have those types of tanks displayed on their links and even sell the Acrylic Piano hinges to attach the door to the front with as least visual disruption as possible, and they also have the acrylic door pulls and catches too. Saurian.com, Patrick Nabors site has a beautiful rack of tanks front opening style on display. He doesn't go into the actual tank construction but shows how the rack is set up for multiple breeding tanks. Its quite a treat to see and you might just get inspired to something of the sort if you have a collection of tanks.

Be sure and show us what you construct!

Maggie

P.S if you want to spend up to 100, and would consider acrylic tank, there now is a really nice site I saw(I'd have to find it again for you)doing those acrylic front opening tanks for about $99. THey'll even sell you a false bottom insert, cut vents and drill holes and install balkheads for misters, and drains should you request it and the fees were extremely reasonable.

thanks you so much.

I think I will go for the 20H verticle idea. My tincs are currently set up in plastic right now and wont be moved for a couple of months yet.

I was worried that the tank on end would not be enough floor space...I think i can do something with slate rock and such to create a lot more room on different levels. Or is the floor space there too small of a foot print?

again - thank you for your help.

Hi Iso:

There was some old topics about this vertical versus horizontal floor space issue some while back too. The general feeling that came of the discussion, if I recall correctly, was that though tincs aren't arboreal, they still used quite a bit of the vertical space by climbing. When I had a pair they certainly never were content to be on the floor only and climbed higher to sit, hang, forage, and even sleep.

I'd agree with you-10 gal, though sufficient, isn't optimal so if you can do the 20 gal, by all means you will find that not only will your frogs be happier so will you be for having more space to create and control.

Here's a really neat link I found this afternoon after I read your question.

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=22&de=364927

You might not order something from them, but those tanks sure are pretty and would give you some nice inspiration for your own creation.

Do show us what everideas you come up with. Most of the hobby has gotten this far because people experimented and shared what they learned.

Take care and have fun!