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Anybody think he could be a pastel?

nope, but he is nice! I like the clean pattern, kinda like mine.

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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

"It is better to be hated for what you are than loved for what you're not."

"You laugh at me because I am different; I laugh at you because you are all the same."

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Not to be mean, but that isn't even questionable. Normal as normal can be.

What gave/gives you the impression that it could be? Just curious.

You can't beat natures original design.

Not sure where YOU think they were made?

I'm sure you know what I meant but if you don't know I meant I prefer the animals with "normal" markings as they typically occure IN THE WILD not the ones selectively bred by humans. PLEASE spare me the analytical reply since they're far to predictable and boring. Don't mind the spelling either.

I wasn't "analyzing" your words, don't flatter yourself.

And Pastels weren't selectively bred. They occur just like that in nature. The original pastels were imported. Just like the Mojave, the Platty, the Spider, albinos, pieds, etc etc.

Not sure why you think captivity actually creates genes, because it doesn't.

Must you analyze MY words?
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I don't even know you (thats a good thing)yet I can read you like a book.

Then why keep replying.

Wow, you're one smart cookie.

And I'm flattered that you took the time to read me like a book!

And do you need a tissue? Can't discuss/debate things here anymore without you getting your panties in a knot? That sucks, because debates are usually where people learn the most.

Oh well.

Dont mind Jeff mrcanada21, he seems to like trolling and talkin down to others.

Morphs were discovered, not invented, just like normals...
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Then what distinguishes a pastel from a normal? Ive seen _some_ very bright balls that were obviously pastels but also some "not so bright" that were identified as pastels. Other than "the eye of the beholder" whats makes a pastel or not?

I did a real quick check and came across this post as an example (Ive been visiting the forum for years so I know its NOT an isolated incident just the first I found):

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=92101,93355

Exactly how is this "pastel" different from mine?

Please reread that post, he said he is going to breed that nice HIGH GOLD BALL to his male pastel (not picttured). a pastel is a genetic trait and is EASILY defined from a normal. I will find a good example and post it, if someone dosen't beat me to it.
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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

"It is better to be hated for what you are than loved for what you're not."

"You laugh at me because I am different; I laugh at you because you are all the same."

~~ Krystal - Future breeder of Pythons, Geckos, we'll see what else later! ~~ www.geocities.com/krystal19_85 ~~

here you go.
Click here to see a pastel and read why a pastel is a pastel

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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

"It is better to be hated for what you are than loved for what you're not."

"You laugh at me because I am different; I laugh at you because you are all the same."

~~ Krystal - Future breeder of Pythons, Geckos, we'll see what else later! ~~ www.geocities.com/krystal19_85 ~~

It says Jungle Pastel? Im assuming thats not the same animal? BTW, the bottom picture of the 84g male is nearly identical to how he looked as a baby.
Oh well, whatever.

Jungle Pastel is the same as a Pastel, just a lazy way of saying it. Pastels also have light eyes and other distinguishing characteristics.
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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

"It is better to be hated for what you are than loved for what you're not."

"You laugh at me because I am different; I laugh at you because you are all the same."

~~ Krystal - Future breeder of Pythons, Geckos, we'll see what else later! ~~ www.geocities.com/krystal19_85 ~~

My pastel pair.

Dave

Pastels have kinda a "foggy" color on the crown on their head. They have a pure white, unmarked belly. Their eyes are really light. The black that is outlining the pattern is more defined. Their is more light brown in between the black outline. If you were to see a pastel in person, you could tell the difference easily. The only thing that really makes a pastel look like a normal, is the orange in some lines fades, and as an adult they look more dull. The other characteristics dont change.