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Received a call tonight that a someone found a couple of rattlers in their barn. Instead of giving it the old shovel, Brent told the guy that I would take them instead of them killing them. So, to make a long story short, Brent brought over these guys @ about 6:30. He said they were curled up together in the barn-I guess that is where they were hibernating at. Here are the pics

1 in the bucket

2 the male ALOT OF RATTLES!

3 female

4 together 1

5 together 2

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norcalsnakemaster@comcast.net

Is the reduecd pattern on the one normal?
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Tim Cole
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I caught this one within a mile of where they caught this one 2 years ago. He is almost patternless-Maybe they are related???

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norcalsnakemaster@comcast.net

Hey Jerry-
Your screen name is NorCal but these are C.ruber, 10-4?

np

these are the ones found in El Sobrante. The colors are different in different areas. Pinole area are more of a beige color & Livermore seam to be brown generally. In El Sob they range from a black to green. I do not know if there has been any research done on color, but maybe it has something to do with habitat. I found a couple up by Lake Barriessa (Napa) 1 was dark green the other was tan. Both had bad attitudes! (tried to bite me)
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norcalsnakemaster@comcast.net

Nice snakes. I think there attitudes are as variable as there color. I have a couple that are quite nasty and a couple that are very mellow.

Thanks! At least that reconciles your moniker...makes me feel dumb though... the ruddy hue and caudal markings fooled me. I'm much more accustomed to helleri; black and blacker
Bill

Jerry,
I put together a PowerPoint Presentation on Crotalus Color/Pattern Morphs and am still expanding it. Could you send me some pics of that reduced patterned N.Pacific to ad to my Program?
I would also like locality data if available. Did Brett actually capture it?

Thanks.
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Tim Cole
www.Designeratrox.com/
www.AustinReptileService.net
www.AustinReptileExpo.com/
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Conservation through Education

It was Brent, a friend from church that caught the ones yesterday. I caught the ones 2 years ago by that property. I think Brett might take the ones caught yesterday in the spring, if he still wants them then. I can try and take some better pics this week for you-can you use the pics I posted. I can e-mail you location seperately (sorry no GPS, yet)

the pair from 2004 1.1

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norcalsnakemaster@comcast.net

I'll tell you what.....that is one of the neatest looking Crotes I have seen in person. I love the variability of oreganus.

Here are a couple I found up near me in the sierra foothills. 1,000ft. elevation

Further up the road about 30 miles. 4,000+ft elevation

Brett,
I like the Gopher Snake in the background also! Nice pics!
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Tim Cole
www.Designeratrox.com/
www.AustinReptileService.net
www.AustinReptileExpo.com/
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Conservation through Education