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Been a while since I have had some time to read the posts.
Hope the new year keeps you all well-will be posting some new shots of the uros soon...
What was the deal with the blue moroccans-anybody have them?
They seemed to be such an interesting uro.

Ed

woah, thats one big uro.

what kind?

Egyptians of course....between the two of them about 47" worth.

>>woah, thats one big uro.
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>>what kind?

LOL, they are looking FINE ! Awesome critters these egyptians, nice to see them again. I have to get some new ones of Cleo.

Never can post too many pics Ed, ya know, hehehehheheee
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PHEve / Eve

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Hey-
Happy new year!
My wife just got another dig camera-maybe that will help get some more pictures out!
E

Hi, Ed-

I've been away - what blue moroccans? I knew they came in a crazy number of colors, but blue? What did I miss?

Cheers!
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Torey
Eugene, Oregon, USA
1.1 Saharan Uros (Joe and Arthur)
3.0 Mali Uros (Tank, Turtle, and Spike)
1.1 Ornate Uros (Scuttlebutt and Shazzbot)
2.1.2 Green Anoles (Bowser, Sprocket, Leeloo)
1.1 Felis domesticus (Roscolux and Jenny)

Hi Ed and Torey,
Let me interject a little about the so called "blue moroccan" uros. I'll try to clear up some confusion which was started by one or two distributors/dealers soon after a couple of groups were freshly imported back in early September. A bit of photo software tinting adjustment and a black phase male can somehow magically turn a bluish tint. Often accompanied by blue tinted sand, rocks and branches and/or whatever background was also captured in the photo.

These are not moroccans at all. Moroccan uros are U. acanthinurus nigriventris. These recently imported uros are actually U. acanthinuras acanthinura sp. Distribution mainly occurs in Algeria ... not Morocco. So a more sensible common name would likely be Algerian uromastyx or even Algerian acanths but certainly not "blue moroccans".

I've acquired a couple of nice breeding age pairs so hopefully the they'll cycle for me in hopes of producing some cb offspring this coming spring/summer. They've just come out of brumation and are looking promising.

This true acanthinurus species is similar to the U a nigriventris (moroccan) in some ways. Besides their seemingly friendly disposition, the most obvious physical differences are mainly the color and tail whorl size/count. Although their tale length is approximately the same length as the Moroccan uros, the Algerian uros tale whorls are much larger/longer with an average 17 whorl count. As far as coloration, one of my males is a young adult and still displays some yellow/green spotting on it's upper back but the other (adult) male has lost the yellow/green spotting and is now a nice black phase with white/silver spotting throughout. These Algerian acanths are dimorphic with the females being less contrasting in not only ground coloration but also lack the leopard like dorsal spotting as in the adult males. Both my females are from a medium to darker brown with little reticulation to even a faint orange banding.

Didn't mean to burst your bubbles but there's no blue moroccans to speak of ... at least not on this planet ... lol

Here's a pic of the larger adult male,
John

John-

Thanks for the information! No bubbles burst for me - I just hadn't heard the term before and was curious. I'd seen the addition to Deer Fern Farm's page with the Algerian Leopard uros, but didn't realize that was the same thing.

Good luck with the breeding efforts - all of them, not just these guys!
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Torey
Eugene, Oregon, USA
1.1 Saharan Uros (Joe and Arthur)
3.0 Mali Uros (Tank, Turtle, and Spike)
1.1 Ornate Uros (Scuttlebutt and Shazzbot)
2.1.2 Green Anoles (Bowser, Sprocket, Leeloo)
1.1 Felis domesticus (Roscolux and Jenny)

Hello John,

Always nice to get some realy professional input.
I had a feeling that there was some marketing levity asserted here but being a novice, I just was curious.
So thanks again for the pict and the info.
I'm not in the market for another Uro anyway....mine are outgrowing my house as it is!
Good luck in your breeding pairs this year.
Ed
>>Hi Ed and Torey,
>>Let me interject a little about the so called "blue moroccan" uros. I'll try to clear up some confusion which was started by one or two distributors/dealers soon after a couple of groups were freshly imported back in early September. A bit of photo software tinting adjustment and a black phase male can somehow magically turn a bluish tint. Often accompanied by blue tinted sand, rocks and branches and/or whatever background was also captured in the photo.
>>
>>These are not moroccans at all. Moroccan uros are U. acanthinurus nigriventris. These recently imported uros are actually U. acanthinuras acanthinura sp. Distribution mainly occurs in Algeria ... not Morocco. So a more sensible common name would likely be Algerian uromastyx or even Algerian acanths but certainly not "blue moroccans".
>>
>>I've acquired a couple of nice breeding age pairs so hopefully the they'll cycle for me in hopes of producing some cb offspring this coming spring/summer. They've just come out of brumation and are looking promising.
>>
>>This true acanthinurus species is similar to the U a nigriventris (moroccan) in some ways. Besides their seemingly friendly disposition, the most obvious physical differences are mainly the color and tail whorl size/count. Although their tale length is approximately the same length as the Moroccan uros, the Algerian uros tale whorls are much larger/longer with an average 17 whorl count. As far as coloration, one of my males is a young adult and still displays some yellow/green spotting on it's upper back but the other (adult) male has lost the yellow/green spotting and is now a nice black phase with white/silver spotting throughout. These Algerian acanths are dimorphic with the females being less contrasting in not only ground coloration but also lack the leopard like dorsal spotting as in the adult males. Both my females are from a medium to darker brown with little reticulation to even a faint orange banding.
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>>Didn't mean to burst your bubbles but there's no blue moroccans to speak of ... at least not on this planet ... lol
>>
>>Here's a pic of the larger adult male,
>>John
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