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THIS JUST IN !...

poosphere Jul 24, 2003 09:56 PM

A recent breakthrough discovery has revealed that ninety-nine percent of all AntiAmericans have "small naughty bits". The other one percent are women. In a controlled experiment conducted by our very own well renowned and highly respected Leonard Nimoy, A small American flag was placed into several cages containing laboratory mice. While the mice that were tripping over their own naughty bits were content to snuggle up to the flag and even fall asleep in it, others with microscopic naughty bits were observed setting the flags on fire by rubbing two pieces of cedar bedding together vigorously. Stay tunede for more details...

Replies (36)

scalawag Jul 25, 2003 07:33 AM

How provocative!

scalawag

kanuck Jul 25, 2003 07:56 AM

Alright, my two favorite inbred, redneck fanatic wingnuts are back. Are you two ever seen apart. Did you set up housekeeping together. Are you sure your names aren't Neal and Bob(if you didn't get that one ask me, I'll explain it really slow for you). Good to see you two out and about. Still obsessed with men's genetalia I see. I think that tell's us all we need to know. Not that there's anything wrong with that. You have every right to lead the lifestyle that you want.

scalawag Jul 25, 2003 08:20 AM

If that's an attempt at comedy, please don't quit your day-job jackass. That is, if you have one.

scalawag

kanuck Jul 25, 2003 08:42 AM

A Canadian hold a job!!!!! We're all a bunch of uneducated hunters and trappers up here. I'm actually typing on my laptop as I walk through the bush. Seriously though, why the fascination with the male organ???? Is it just scientific curiousity or does it run deeper than that.

scalawag Jul 25, 2003 08:58 AM

I'm not interested in the male organ like you seem to be. I'm sure my girlfriend could explain it better. Keep floundering sweet pants.

scalawag

kanuck Jul 25, 2003 08:42 AM

A Canadian hold a job!!!!! We're all a bunch of uneducated hunters and trappers up here. I'm actually typing on my laptop as I walk through the bush. Seriously though, why the fascination with the male organ???? Is it just scientific curiousity or does it run deeper than that.

scalawag Jul 25, 2003 08:51 AM

By the way creepo, what are your thoughts on Stoeckl's piece (of crap) about how the US brought the Twin Towers down? Or don't you wany to go there, because Stoeckl is anti-American and that jives well with your agenda? Nothing ubites men more than a common enemy, and it's obvious to see that, even though you agreed with the war in Iraq and Stoeckl didn't, you both hate the US.

Come on tough guy, let's see if you have the balls to criticize Stoeckl about the garbage he's posted regarding the war. After all, this thread is a debate between those who were for it and those who opposed it. You were for it and Stoeckl was against it, It would be interesting to see you and Stoeckl challenge each other on your different points of view. Or is your hatred for the common enemy (the US) to great to drop your hidden agenda for a moment to tell Stock that he's wrong. Surely a self-righteous creep like you must have something to say to the guy that thinks you are wrong about the war? If you are right, then Stoeckl has to be wrong. Care to tell Stoeckl that he's wrong?

scalawag

scalawag Jul 25, 2003 08:53 AM

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PS The Twin Towers were brought down by Bush. What are your thoughts on that Kanucklehead?

kanuck Jul 25, 2003 10:05 AM

You called me sweet pants. I think you've got a thing for me Do I agree with Stoeckel's assertion. Absolutely not. I think that that article has to be the biggest load of garbage I've ever read. Arab fundamentalists brought down the twin towers. Why they did it is open to many different theories. You can pick and choose among them. Do I think that the US somehow deserved what they got. Once again absolutely not. As far as invading Iraq goes, I applaud the move. Saddam was a tyrant who deserved to be overthrown. Did the US do it to prevent terrorist attacks against themselves. That I'm not too sure about. There hasn't been any concrete evidence shown yet that Iraq was actively involved in funding or training terrorist cells. Does the fact that I have some questions about the motives for attacking Iraq make me hate Americans. Not in the least. As I stated my wife is American, born and bred in Colorado. My relatives live there. My Aunt and Uncle are American citizens who live in North Carolina. My cousin played basketball for Wake Forest(Go Deamon Deacons). My point throughout has simply been that to question what happened in open debate doesn't make you a fag, or somehow less of a man. It doesn't make you a commie or a subversive. And it certainly doesn't make you an american hater. America was founded on the principals of free speech and open debate. In the US no idea is too sacred to be brought out into the forum of public opinion. You can tell me that my ideas are absolute crap, but you can't attack me personally for espousing those ideas. Thats character assasination and has absolutely nothing to do with the subjects at hand. Which is what we've been doing for the last little while. I have to admit it's been fun, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the subjects at hand. Over to you

scalawag Jul 25, 2003 12:34 PM

You've said all the right things about the war, and I understand that people who are close to you are American. Good for you! Who cares! You are getting kicked around like a rag doll because you are a punk that has an obvious inferiority problem. Your position is completely one-sided against two guys that are defending Bush, and it's no coincidence that YOU ARE A CANADIAN. We've been insulted by two foreigners who would oppose ANYTHING the US does, regardless of what they truely believe. A kindergartener would have seen the anti-American venom behind Herpesconsultant2's and Stoeckl's ridiculous posts. And a kindergartener would not have been surprised to see that some of us Americans responded in such a venemous way, knowing that their posts were much more than simply "divergent opinions". Insults were being made in both directions, yet you reserved your self-rightous opinions for unly the Americans. It's that choice that put you in the line of fire jackass. Don't pretend to objective when you have a chip on your shoulder against America. Does your wife call out the names of former (American) boyfriends in bed?

scalawag

kanuck Jul 25, 2003 12:53 PM

Actually my wife and I can't actually have sex anymore. Ever since you started questioning my manhood I've been unable to perform in bed. Oh the tragedy. If you've read anything I wrote I was talking about the idea of free speech and open debate. I also stated that just because someone questions american policy, it doesn't mean that you're an American hater. Just means you dissagree with their policy, that's all. I don't know how much simpler I can make it. As far as Hermann and Herpconsultant go, I have a feeling they feel the same way. If people questioning US policy really gets to you, I'm sorry. But because you're the biggest player in global politics right now it's going to happen. Hell it happens inside your own country an awful lot as it is. If you're going to try and shout down everyone with a differing opinion, your just going to alienate everyone and end up shooting yourself in the foot.

scalawag Jul 25, 2003 01:59 PM

Free speech and open debate are present in this thread. No one here has denied Stoeckl, Herpes, and yourself of anything, including free speech and the opportunity for open debate, so please stop your pathetic whining! You have been driven to blather on this forum by something that isn't even there. Either your imagination has gotten the best of you, or you have such an act to grind with Americans that you are making things up in order to put us down. Either way, we arent stupid. IWe haven't branded Stoeckl and Herpes "American haters" simply because they have questioned American policy. You can continue to act like an idiot by characterizing the things they've said and the way that they said them as simply "questioning American policy", but the joke's on you.

As far a the US alienating countries like Germany and France go, because they have a "differing opinion", let's just say that they've alienated themselves. Their "differing opinions" are what led to the attempt by the UN to prevent the US from hunting down killers who've vowed "death to America". America is now a safer place to be because Bush gave their little and "different" opinions the consideration they deserved. And, take note Kanucklehead, we didn't bomb France and/ or Germany because of their "different opinions", so don't get all worked up thinking that you put forth any ideas that are worthy of debate. You are a rebel without a cause. Don't be ridiculous, we know about, and appreciate, free speech and open debate more than any Canadian, German, or English twit will ever know.

scalawag

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scalawag Jul 25, 2003 02:00 PM

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kanuck Jul 25, 2003 03:26 PM

Gotta run, I'm off to Syracuse this weekend with the wife and kids. She wants to look up all those old boyfriends she thinks about when we're making love.Try not and miss me too much. I'll be back monday.
Hugs and kisses
Kanuck

poosphere Jul 25, 2003 12:48 PM

As far as being "America haters", I must admit you gave some mixed signals. i applaud your stance on some issues. Others I don't. In any case, Stoeckl and Herpsco. came off as condescending and insulting right out of the gates. They both have done some serious back-peddling and neither will answer the simplest question. What would have been an alternative solution in their eyes to terrorism. What would have been their reaction to 9/11 if it happened to them. While I too admit this can be fun as well as a good outlet for frustration (as Stoeckl has demonstrated), I am serious about one thing. That is using my right of freedom of speech to defend my country from slanderous remarks that are unfounded and are hearsay. Like I always say..."don't start nothin', won't be nothin". This didn't start out as a disagreement on the issue of being for or against war. This started as slanderous posts from Herpsco. and Stoeckl.The same principle applies here as the war on terrorism. Sometimes you are forced to fight violence with violence. Herps and Stokie came on strong. So did we!

kanuck Jul 25, 2003 01:20 PM

I think what it comes down to is that you have your opinion and they have theirs. The US is the major political player on the world stage right now and their actions are always going to be debated. I think that's a good thing. Maybe they came across as condescending, but I don't believe they resorted to the schoolyard tactics of denigrating the other persons manhood etc. (of course if you can point out an example where they did I'll retract that statement). I think they did have some valid points and that it would have been much more interesting to debate those instead of screaming American hater. Regardless, this has been the most fun I've had on Kingsnake in a while. Looking forward to more of the same.

poosphere Jul 25, 2003 02:53 PM

Unless someone here found truth in my "THIS JUST IN" post about Nimoy's fictitious experiment(lol), then it shouldn't have struck a nerve. My apologies to anyone with teensy "naughty parts" who may have been offended.
In any case, I didn't see the "valid points" worth debating. What I did see (especially from Stoeckl) was malicious, ridiculous, condescending propaganda worthy of my input in defense of my country. By the way, don't you find it the least bit interesting that the only three guys here who are lashing out at Wags and I are all foreigners. How provocative!

H+E Stoeckl Jul 25, 2003 08:32 PM

why you waste your time on these individuals.
They don't want to think, they just want to misrepresent things that they have read or heard (or had somehow emerged in their narrow minds).

Pointing out on the link regarding 9/11 does not imply that I share the opinion of the author. I wrote: Just some food for thoughts. But in my opinion there are several questions unanswered.

My time is to precious to discuss with two individuals with a poor upbringing who are wearing blinkers.

You should also consider if there are not better things to do for you than wasting your time with these fanatic hyper patriots.

In Germany we have a saying: The moon does not care when the dogs are howling at it.

When they are slavering, just let it pass... The truth about Iraq (and maybe other events) will transpire some day and then they will struggle to find explantions why this happened and that it is OK anyway because the U.S. is a great nation without failure and blah blah blah...
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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

poosphere Jul 25, 2003 09:29 PM

A little too late now to be back-peddling, don't you think? Could you be any more of a hypocrite? You posted that article because you believe every ridiculous word in it! At least have the guts to stand by your true opinions and admit them.

poosphere Jul 25, 2003 09:32 PM

On the contrary, it does imply that you share the opinions of the author. Why else would you post that toilette paper? Back-peddler!!!

scalawag Jul 26, 2003 09:01 AM

Stoeckl says: "I CAN HARDLY UNDERSTAND". Who doesn't know that! We've watched you struggle throughout this thread to form even the most basic rational thought. I like how you are now trying to distance yourself, somewhat, from that wretched article. Why is that Stoeckl? Are you starting to feel, at least a little bit, like an a$$?

scalawag

PS We (the US) are the moon, and you (Germany) are the dog.

poosphere Jul 25, 2003 12:22 PM

You're so clever and funny. I dare not try to match wits with the likes of anyone so quick on his toes. By the way, feel free to chime in any time now with your solutions to terrorism or how you would have handled 9/11. For some reason you hotshots seem to be avoiding that issue.

kanuck Jul 25, 2003 12:36 PM

Do you actually read anything I write. I said I was for the war in Iraq and I thought the terrorist acts on Sept 11 were reprehensible. I think you did the proper thing by going after the terrorist cells in Afghanistan. I do question the link to terrorism with Iraq. Regardless of that I think removing Saddams regime was a good thing. You want to know what I'd do next. Go after the financial backers in the mideast, and that means going after the Saudi's, something that the US hasn't shown a willingness to do yet. The final congressional report on the 9/11 tragedy came out this week but the portion referring to Saudi Arabia's part in funding radical groups has been censored out of the report. Why is that? I have my own opinions, but first I'd like to hear yours

scalawag Jul 25, 2003 12:49 PM

There are many terrorists in Saudi Arabia, just like there were in Iraq. Fortunately, we are able to use diplomacy in order to pressure the Saudi government to help us in finding the terrorists within their country. If you prefer, I'm sure we could handle them the same way we handled Iraq, but certainly even a mental midget like yourself, can see the difference between Saddam's regime and the Saudi government. We haven't been attacked by terrorists from Saudi Arabia since 9/11. What is your point in bringing up Saudi Arabia a$$hole?

scalawag

kanuck Jul 25, 2003 01:05 PM

Well I do believe, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, that Poosphere asked me what steps I'd take in dealing with terrorism and going after the Saudi financial backers was my answer. I'm not sure that the US, at least as far as I've seen, and feel free to point out any articles that prove me wrong, have the diplomatic will power to really affect the Saudi's and make them go after the financial backers. I think that the US needs the backing and co-operation of the Saudi's to help them in their objectives in the middle east and they can't rock the boat too much for fear of alienating them. By the way, is a$$hole your pet name for me. Sorry couldn't resist.

scalawag Jul 25, 2003 02:20 PM

Don't get your hopes up! I'm sorry to disappoint you but, no, I don't have a pet name for you. I don't swing that far, but I'm a little worried about you.

Do you really think that Bush hasn't taken the necessary steps to eliminate terrorists in Saudi Arabia? There's layers of politics that make it a difficult situtation and I'm sure that Bush has a better handle on the situation than you do. Like I said before, we haven't been attacked by terrorists from Saudi Arabia since 9/11. Does that bother you? Do you think that, whatever he's doing, is working? Or would you rather take a stab at the US, because we have an interest in their oil? That would be the oil that we PAY for.

scalawag

kanuck Jul 25, 2003 02:49 PM

Now why in the name of all thats holy would it upset me that terrorists hadn't attacked the US since 9/11. Do you even bother to read what I've said. And do you always take it on blind faith that the powers that be have a better grasp of the situation than you do and you shouldn't question them in their wisdom? I think that's an incredibly naive and dangerous path to follow. I think we should question our leaders decisions as much as possible. I think that leads to a healthy democracy. For your information I happen to like Bush and I think that overall he's done a good job in a difficult situation. I don't think we're being told the truth about why Iraq was invaded but as I said before I don't care, Saddam deserved top go. And by the way, you can take the "you're just anti-american line and stuff it, it's getting old" If thats all you can come back with you're not worth talking to.

poosphere Jul 25, 2003 03:05 PM

Let's see...tell us we're basically blind and wrong for vigorously defending our country, then say you're not AntiAmerican. Something doesn't add up here. Just my opinion...freedom of speech, right?

kanuck Jul 25, 2003 03:22 PM

You are entitled to express your opinion. Anyway I'm off work and headed down to Syracuse with the wife and kids this weekend to see some of my american friends who I really don't like It will be interesting what their take is on the whole issue. Of course they are a little bit of a liberal bunch so you never know. Have a fun weekend.

poosphere Jul 25, 2003 03:52 PM

Hurry back, we'll miss ya' buddy.

steve.AC Aug 03, 2003 05:27 PM

You say that you are not wrong with vigorousley deffending your contry, but your posts make you sound like a hippochrite. you say who cares why we went to war, who cares about them over there and so on, your government is saying it cares, but you actually dissagree with your government so why then are you soo deffensive about your country, you dont sound like you agree with your country anywy, please tell me what your talking about.

steve

scalawag Jul 26, 2003 08:49 AM

YOU'RE JUST ANTI-AMERICAN!

scalawag

poosphere Jul 25, 2003 03:47 PM

Actually, I do read what you write. Unfortunately, you don't read what I write. When you do read my posts, you choose to interpret, and put a false spin on everything I say to suit your need to be confrontational, which is the only reason you are here. You'll never admit that, but it's blatantly obvious. For example, my statement that if people don't like it here, they should get out. My implication was to find somewhere better to live that suits them or stop whining and appreciate just how good they really have it here. You chose to put a spin on that statement implying that I insinuated that our government should kick people out of this country. That's absurd. I said nothing of the kind. I do believe you knew exactly what I meant yet ignored that for your own personal gain. That gain being the ammo(your own fictitious version of my post) you needed to launch the frivolous attack that gained you nothing in my eyes other than the title of being an Anti-American. Perhaps if you stop picking apart every word in every post in an effort to find the one word or the "window of opportunity" to change the interpretation into one that benefits your campaign to try to discredit or thwart our efforts to vigorously defend our country, then your views might be worth evaluating. Right now, they aren't. Of course that would take the fun out of it for you, wouldn't it? Also, the fact that the only two people here that you are even addressing are Americans (with nothing but venom from the get-go). You have yet to question the veracity of anyone elses post. See where I'm going with this? You want us to believe you're not Anti-American, yet every aspect of your posts leads me to believe otherwise. The fact that you married an American woman is irrelevant. I know people who have married outside of their race that were prejudice toward that very race of the person they married. I applaud you for finding an American woman that will put up with you, lol. Anyway, I'll believe you're not Anti-American when I see it.

steve.AC Aug 01, 2003 06:31 AM

You Americans are always sending out JUNK mail into your American hotmail and other American mail servers, the kind of junk mail that says Improve your size, get bigger, and its not just penises, its breasts and all. YOU Americans seem to be the ones always wanting bigger things because your ego's are soo big that the other parts of you dont match.

thanks and have a nice day

steve

poosphere Aug 01, 2003 11:14 AM

That is by far the most brilliant, well thought out, wittiest and funniest post ever. You da man. Get a life, crenoid. I've never once recieved junk mail that advertised any of that garbage you mentioned. But I guess if YOU say so, it must be true.

steve.AC Aug 03, 2003 05:06 PM

Yes, many people deny receiving emails like that, usually the deny is from someone who actually used the service.

steve

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