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Elaphe moellendorffi

juswanderin Jan 10, 2006 09:50 PM

Does anyone here work with the hundred flower snake? I am interested in getting a pair and was wondering about set up. I have learned that the snakes prefer slightly lower temps and that the may like low light levels as well. Do people with asians keep the young at lower temps as well as the adults or around 85 for hatchlings and then 75-79 for adults.
How about temperament? I am of course talking about captive born hatchlings with intention of growing to adult size. I know these get large, but any advise on cage size: square feet vs. cubic feet.

I appreciate any help that comes my way.

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ratsnakehaven Jan 11, 2006 05:19 AM

>>Does anyone here work with the hundred flower snake? I am interested in getting a pair and was wondering about set up. I have learned that the snakes prefer slightly lower temps and that the may like low light levels as well. Do people with asians keep the young at lower temps as well as the adults or around 85 for hatchlings and then 75-79 for adults.
>>How about temperament? I am of course talking about captive born hatchlings with intention of growing to adult size. I know these get large, but any advise on cage size: square feet vs. cubic feet.
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>>I appreciate any help that comes my way.
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Don't have much time, but I'll give you a little heads up, assuming you're starting with CB babies. They're difficult to get started, generally. They cool pretty easily and also are difficult to get feeding if the humidity is low. I would cool them down to around 60*F, or so, for a couple months, to get them set as far as winter goes. Also, don't keep them too warm. You could try a ten gallon tank for a baby with a temp gradient. They'll probably stay in the cool end, but depends on individuals too. You might also want to put in a moist hide. Adults easily brumate four months. Babies will start eating in spring on mice pinks, etc, but you can try tricks to get them started earlier. Once they are feeding on their own they grow quickly and you might need more space than a ten gallon after a year, or so. Good luck. TC

PS: This species doesn't make a good pet..too big and pretty fiesty. I would recommend them for the serious keeper or researcher only...

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devboy Jan 11, 2006 06:46 AM

>>>>Does anyone here work with the hundred flower snake? I am interested in getting a pair and was wondering about set up. I have learned that the snakes prefer slightly lower temps and that the may like low light levels as well. Do people with asians keep the young at lower temps as well as the adults or around 85 for hatchlings and then 75-79 for adults.
>>>>How about temperament? I am of course talking about captive born hatchlings with intention of growing to adult size. I know these get large, but any advise on cage size: square feet vs. cubic feet.
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>>>>I appreciate any help that comes my way.
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>>Don't have much time, but I'll give you a little heads up, assuming you're starting with CB babies. They're difficult to get started, generally. They cool pretty easily and also are difficult to get feeding if the humidity is low. I would cool them down to around 60*F, or so, for a couple months, to get them set as far as winter goes. Also, don't keep them too warm. You could try a ten gallon tank for a baby with a temp gradient. They'll probably stay in the cool end, but depends on individuals too. You might also want to put in a moist hide. Adults easily brumate four months. Babies will start eating in spring on mice pinks, etc, but you can try tricks to get them started earlier. Once they are feeding on their own they grow quickly and you might need more space than a ten gallon after a year, or so. Good luck. TC
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>>PS: This species doesn't make a good pet..too big and pretty fiesty. I would recommend them for the serious keeper or researcher only...

Excellent info! They are wonderful animals though for those who can spare the extra effort. Cheers Dev.
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doglovers Jan 15, 2006 08:21 AM

I would not say fiesty. My moellendorfii are really tame.
Big, well that depends on what you compare them with.
Sure they are bigger than consnakes but still smaller than Taeniura.
I find them easy to keep. They do not like it to hot.
I have 3,8 adult going in three terrarium on 180 cm long, 80 cm wide and 120 cm high.
Daytemp on 26 degress and down to 18 at night. A little cooler during winter.
All terrarium are wellplanted with live plants and misting done automatic twice a day.
In short you can say I keep them as African Chameleons.
Every spring I get several clutches and the babies are not harder to raise than Cornsnakes.
It is a shame that not more people are breeding them.
Here is a photo of some babies.
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puckmtn Jan 12, 2006 10:08 AM

Try Tom and Rob at High Plains Herpetology, they work with several species of asian rat snakes. Great guys with lots of knowledge and top quality animals.

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