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Hi, i was just wondering which morph setup is most profitable in breeding. A male albino X female Het albino, or a male Het pastel X female Het pastel. The albino's would produce 50% albino, 50% het. The pastels would produce, 50% het, 25% super, 25% normal.

Right now im deciding between the two, which one would you guys prefer and why.

here are a couple of questions i still have:
1 what percentage of eggs go full term?
2 Are there enough customers out there with all these high priced pythons?
3 Which has a higher demand, albino or pastel?

Thank you for your time,
Mike

The pastel gene is co dominant. A pastel has no het form. Pastel x normal will produce some pastels. Pastel x pastel will produce pastels and SUPER pastels. Albinos cost a little more, and being a recessive trait will hold their value longer.
Yes there is a healthy market for bp mutations.
All eggs can go full term.
All eggs can go bad.
Hope this helps a little

Actually from pastel X pastel breeding you should get:
50% pastels
25% super pastels
25% normals

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Adrian
AFR
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Don't fall into the trap of saying that they are co-dominant and therefore not hets. The two terms are not interchangeable. A pastel is a co-dominant mutant that is heterozygous for the mutation. The Superpastel is a co-dominant mutant that is homozygous for the mutation.

Mark

>>The pastel gene is co dominant. A pastel has no het form. Pastel x normal will produce some pastels. Pastel x pastel will produce pastels and SUPER pastels. Albinos cost a little more, and being a recessive trait will hold their value longer.
>>Yes there is a healthy market for bp mutations.
>>All eggs can go full term.
>>All eggs can go bad.
>>Hope this helps a little

Thank you for correcting me, now i understand what you mean. I am new to python genetics so i am going to keep researching until i attain an adequate amount of knowledge on genetics.

Mike

Oh yeah one thing I forgot to mention. I SERIOUSLY advize you to research any and all aspects of snake husbandry before diveing into breeding for profit. Hopefully $$$$$$$ isnt your chief goal here. If it is I doubt very much that you will succeed. As said a billion times on this forum ( and rightly so) do it for the love of the animals first, a fun hobby second, and your bank account third. Good luck.

Hi, when i say het pastel, i mean the pastel because it’s not homozygous like the super pastel. Also, im not doing this just for money; I love reptiles, and i really love the adventure of breeding them. There is nothing like waking up in the morning to check the tank for eggs, or to see if you have any hatchlings in the incubator. FYI, i have been breeding all sorts of reptiles since i was about 12 years old. I've had balls for about 18 months, so i beleive i know the basics of husbandry, and breeding reptiles isn't a foreign thing for me. i just wanted to make the wisest investment possible because these guys aren't cheap. I think im going to go with albino, because the adults retain their amazing coloration their entire lives, vs fading to a dull normal color like the pastels do.

Thank you for your time,
Mike

Hey mike, have you considered pieds?? I just bought my first pair of hets for about 1000$. I love pieds and the hets are a great deal, while the actual pieds seem to be holding steady in price and have a wide appeal. Plus pieds are awesome mixed with other morphs. Just a thought

I would buy a pair of Pastels which is about the same price of a male Albino give or take a couple hundred dollars depending who you buy them from and buy a female het Albino.
Assuming that the BP's that you've had for the past 18 month are females you could breed them to your male Pastel this season or next sell or trade some of your Pastels for a male Albino. Your Albino male and your het female Albino should be ready to breed at the same time as well as your female Pastel with your male Pastel.
This would work "if you have females that are at least 18 month old".
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Adrian
AFR
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I've only had my little 360-gram guy for about 6 months now. What got me into pythons is last year, i took care of my friend's ball when he went to college. After that i decided to get me one of my own. So unfortunately that wouldn't work, but you made me think to borrow my friend's ball for breeding, but his is a male, so it wouldn't do me any good. thank you for the responses, also one of you said the pastel breeding would actually produce 50% pastel, 25% normal, 25% super. I did say that, but instead of saying pastel i said het because that what i call them. Before I buy the new guys im going to get a new cage. With lizards I would just build cages out of plywood without tops, but I don’t think it would be wise to do that in this case. Is buying a cage worth it, or can you successfully build an escape proof cage? Where can i buy snake racks/large units? Is it worth it to get a snake rack/unit?

Thank you for your time,
Mike

>>Hi, i was just wondering which morph setup is most profitable in breeding. A male albino X female Het albino, or a male Het pastel X female Het pastel. The albino's would produce 50% albino, 50% het. The pastels would produce, 50% het, 25% super, 25% normal.

will be most profitable. It's just a ploy to suck you in deeper and deeper into the crevices of becoming a BP junkie.
I'm partial to albinos, though I own both. IMHO, everyone has a pastel, or soon to be. Albinos have been ignored as of late with all the new morphs out. I think both will do well with double-het projects though. Just do what you like.

>>1 what percentage of eggs go full term?

Not sure if anyone even keeps these stats. Until my last clutch, I was at 100%.

>>2 Are there enough customers out there with all these high priced pythons?

This same questioned was asked at least 5 years ago, so what do you think?

>>3 Which has a higher demand, albino or pastel?

For what? People are jumping all over the pastel bandwagon for the quick buck. Eventually, the market is going to be flooded with pastels and then...
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Jay A. Martin
Jay Martin Reptiles