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Help with some crazy genetics

pythonsbaby Jan 11, 2006 04:47 PM

Ok, I bought some corns at a yard sale last year. The owner was not there, had moved and friend or relative was selling their stuff. They had no idea on the genetics of these animals. The male is obviously Anery and the small female Amel. I posted pics of the large female and most agreed that she was Emoryi. So, I bred the Anery x Amel and the offspring included Anery and Albinos. So I know the Amel and Anery are both Het Snow.

Now, I bred the Anery male with the Emoryi. I recieved normals that looked more like an emoryi than guttatus and Anery's with the Emoryi pattern. Normally people call a Guttatus x Emoryi a rootbeer. What does that make my Anery babies? They are 50% possible het amel as well. I would like to keep a few and sell a few, but dont know what to call them to make it simple. Any ideas? I posted pics of the Anery Male and Emoryi Female. Thanks!

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Kat Jan 11, 2006 05:00 PM

...is to call it an Anery Rootbeer. I'm not aware of there existing a specific name for an emoryi-hybrid anery, but I have seen other breeders use things like Rootbeer Ghost to delinate a hybrid which is homozygous for anery and hypo.

As far as I know, emoryi-hybrid names exist as follows:

Amel = Creamsicle/Cremesicle
Hypo = Cinnamon
Normal = Rootbeer
Ghost = Rootbeer Ghost

...so unless there's already a specific anery rootbeer name out there (I'm not aware of one), I don't see why you couldn't call it an Anery Rootbeer or a Rootbeer Anery. It gets the point across.

-Kat
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pythonsbaby Jan 12, 2006 10:11 AM

That is a good idea. Who knows, maybe the name will stick. Thanks and look for Anery Rootbeer Corns soon!

Kerby... Jan 12, 2006 11:54 AM

**The male is obviously Anery and the small female Amel.... So, I bred the Anery x Amel and the offspring included Anery and Albinos. So I know the Amel and Anery are both Het Snow.**

There is no such thing as het for Snow. The correct terminology is: double het for anery and amel. Snow is not a single recessive gene but rather a combination of 2 recessive genes. And your corns are not double hets. They are single hets...

The correct label is that your anery is het for amel. And your amel is het for anery. That is important in labeling your babies as you cannot have babies that are het for snow; or possible het for snow, etc...

This is important if you do other breeding projects with either male or female with corns that are also het for other genes or you will be confused as to why you will never produce a snow.

Kerby...

Kat Jan 12, 2006 12:29 PM

Yeah, I'll grant you it's more correct to say Amel het Anery, to anyone with a decent grasp of Cornsnake genetics, Amel het Snow is just as understandable.

What gets me is the people who say Snow het Amel...
(Which is wrong BTW... really, it's Snow homozygous Amel.)

-Kat
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Kat Jan 12, 2006 12:30 PM

>>Yeah, I'll grant you it's more correct to say Amel het Anery, to anyone with a decent grasp of Cornsnake genetics, Amel het Snow is just as understandable.
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>>What gets me is the people who say Snow het Amel...
>>(Which is wrong BTW... really, it's Snow homozygous Amel.)
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>>-Kat
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goregrind Jan 12, 2006 02:02 PM

they are confusing! and you can be sold a fake het
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pythonsbaby Jan 14, 2006 10:04 PM

Understood. In the python and boa world, het for Snow is a common practice. I guess it is more correct to use the actual "gene" terminology in the description of the animal. As far as dealing with hets, yes is may get confusing, but like my original post, it was a buy at a yard sale, something I have never witnessed before. For $50 it was a steal as well. I just would like to be able to offer the offspring and correctly describe their genetics, to the best of my ability. Thanks for everyones help.

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