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Can anyone suggest a good book to learn about Geno and Phenotypes?

RalphSnakeMan Jul 25, 2003 12:15 AM

I took biology last year in highschool and I have a basic understanding of basic genetics and what not but I am eager to learn more about genotypes and phenotypes as I plan on breeding snakes in the very near future. Any suggestions on which books to read so as to grasp the idea of 66% het for this an 100% homozogous for that...basically I'm looking for a book or website or something that will bring this all into grasp...

Thank you for your time,
Ralph
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naker Jul 25, 2003 01:30 AM

Here are three great books that I like. "Albinos" color and pattern mutations of snakes and other reptiles by Stefan Broghammer, "Reptile and Amphibian Variants" colors, patterns, and scales by H. Bernard Bechtel, "The Corn Snake Manual" by Bill Love and Kathy Love. I have others but I like these the best. I hope this helps! John Rhoads.

chrish Jul 25, 2003 08:24 AM

Any decent biology textbook will tell you what you need to know about dominance, codominance and simple mendelian inheritance. Once you know that, simply need to know whether a particular trait is dominant, recessive, codominant, or something else. That information can generally be found on web sites of people who sell these animals.

Be aware however, that many people assume that just because a snake is different than its littermates, that it must be some sort of new recessive trait. This is, of course, totally unfounded, but a very common practice in the hobby among those with little background in Mendelian Genetics.

The 100% vs. 66% vs. 50% hets is simply a sales gimmick. It does not imply that a snake is 2/3 heterozygous (which is impossible) but rather that 2/3 of dominant phenotype animals should be heterozygous. Of course, there is no way to know which individuals are or are not, so if you buy these animals you are taking a chance.

To get these numbers you cross

Aa x Aa - gives you 66% possible hets because 2/3 of the dominant phenotype offspring "should be" heterozygous. Of course, they could all be homozygous as well. Simple probability.

AA x aa - gives 100% hets

Aa x aa - gives 100% hets (all dominant phenotype offspring are heterozygous - you will get some recessive phenotype individuals as well)

AA x Aa - gives 50% hets. All offspring will be dominant phenotype but have a 50% chance of being a het.

Do the Punnett Squares for these crosses and you will see where the probabilities come from. The probability is the answer to the question "If I choose one of the dominant phenotype individuals, what is the chance that it will be heterozygous?".
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jones Jul 26, 2003 12:31 AM

"Any decent biology textbook will tell you what you need to know about dominance, codominance and simple mendelian inheritance."

Correction: Any decent bilogy textbook would never mention the word codominance because it is a nonsense word used by people trying to explain something they do not understand. Not trying to personally attack you, just sick of hearing that word. It means nothing.
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jones Jul 26, 2003 12:28 AM

The most confusing part about the 66% het is that people always leave out the word possible. It's not 66% het. That makes no sense. The term means that theoretically 66% of the normal offspring will be heterozygous. It's probably even better to leave off the 66% and just say that it is a possible het. If you understand basic genetics and know how to use a punnet square then you already understand how most snake morphs work.
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