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I am curious… Suppose I am selling 05 coral albino babies a twice the price of a regular albinos, let’s say $2000 and, let’s say that Boa is a stunning neonate/juvenile but grows up looking like an average albino and barley if any coral traits or doesn’t even resemble its parents at all… Am I responsible or what would the ramifications be??? The price difference between an adult coral albino and an average albino is great and all coral albinos’ are not alike making their adult price range vary greatly and that price could easily be argued.
What I am saying just because there is coral in the pedigree does not mean the best looking albino will grow to be a coral? Correct? Please people can you help sort things out for me. Again I am just curious and this could apply to many situations.

Thanks -Greg Reinert-

I had a litter of 05 coral albinos some of which I sold for $2000 which are already without a doubt coral albinos. Others that may or may not grow to be as nice I would sell for less, or hold for a few months to see how they turn out. If both parents are coral albinos then it's a given that all will be coral. The term "coral" is a word that few people will use like "pastel", it may be a coral albino or it may only be a real nice albino, I believe it depends alot on what the parents look like. Either way $1200 to $1500 for what could very well turn out to be a coral albino or at the very least an above average albino is a better way to go.
Jason

If you are a serious breeder, you will never sell even a 2 or 3 months old boa for a coral but for a possible coral ! The colors devellopement in corals is a slow process with sometime great deceptions and a lot of variations in the "coralish" colors.

You breed a coral albino to a coral albino then there is know question all the offspring will be coral albinos, they don't have a choice. Some will be better then others some may even go to another level surpassing the adults. Which is were the coral albino came from "selective breeding". That dosen't mean that a normal looking offspring from lets say a coral x normal albino won't become better in time, but you may not know for sure until after it's 1st year or more. The object is that each generation will become alittle more colorful then the last.
Jason Reese

As far as there being "no question" whether coral x coral babies would appear to be corals, correct me if I am mistaken, but the "coral look" is not known to be a simple recessive, or even an reliably heritable trait as far as I have ever heard.
Is there a definite genetic heritability to "coral"

I think some of the prices for them are ludicrous, if there is no passable gene involved, which I am fairly certain is the case.
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It has before. Pete has noted this in numerous places. That doesnt mean it happens all the time.

I believe coral is a polygenic phenotype.

Breed a barely coral to a barely coral and I would be willing to bet you would not get all corals

Breed a strong coral to a strong coral and I would be willing to bet you would get all corals.
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So what your saying is as long as the parents are both corals and the offspring look amazing then they are going to hold their coral appearence throughout adulthood if not better? Suppose one of these knockouts grows up completly normal looking(for an albino)? Tuff luck or what??? Do you say "well thats how it works with corals" or "sorry sir/mam here is a real coral"???

Thanks -Greg Reinert-

From what I have read and seen, you cannot be 100% sure it will be a coral even if both parents are corals. I have seen some adults that are amazing and definately corals. But you just don't know until they mature. This is why I don't work with them. I would hate to sell a snake as a coral and have it turn out looking like a normal. I personally think that unless you can really tell, it should be sold as a poss. coral. Just my opinion.
Michael Burton

It is not really understood how the coral gene is passed on and i know sometimes it just happens in regular albino breedings. But if you notice a good amount of coraling on your juvies I dought if they will become drab adults. I have seen regular albinos that are killing some of the albinos that have been sold as corals, meaning they look more like corals than the actual or so called corals. I have a coral male that is mediocre in appearance but his mother was as coral as coral can get and that was the reason I purchased him. I guess if you show people the parents of your snakes and have pictures of the female giving birth, they would know exactly what they were getting into and then if they still wanted to pay your $2000 asking price I think it would be fair for both parties.

hope this helps a little

Shot

it is better to play it safe. Many of the big breeders will label Albinos from Coral litters as such, not guaranteeing they will be coral. It is a bit of a gambel on the buyers part.

If I pay the Coral price, I want a coral. This is very hard to guarantee as a baby. There are hints, but nothing is easy.

If I were you I would price the babies around $1500, and mention they were produced by Corals or Hets from Coral breedings. If possible trace your breeder's bloodline to verify it is a true Coral albino, and not a "look alike."

If I payed the Coral price $2000-$2500 I would want a long term guarantee from the breeder, much like purchaseing hets.

How's my old boy doing?

She was born in July of 2005. She is really pink/orangish all over, but I can't tell for sure if she is a coral or not.

Any input is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Here's another pic when she was 4 months old.

thanks