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Zenzinia......

michaelburton Jan 13, 2006 10:41 AM

On the post below, you said that Sharps turn brown. Can you show me where you saw this? Thanks. Not trying to stir the pot or anything, just curious.
Mike Burton

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bcijoe Jan 13, 2006 11:34 AM

Know what, i've heard that reference a few times now...
I think what that is refering to is...

When Doug M was posting/showing pics of his Sharp Pastel Dream Sunglows, one with intense color was going into shed...

That animals tail had deep, intense reds... and when the animal was opaque, that coloring looked maroon, or burgandy.. almost brown, especially if viewed under low light.

I know adults tend to acquire similar intense coloration, and it may appear darker under certain conditions, and as the animal matures. By no means have I seen a brown Sharp animal....

If that's not it, then hey... just my attempt at answering this and other comments I saw like this..

Just my $.02

later! -Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

zenzinia Jan 13, 2006 01:57 PM

Thanks Joe, it's a part of it !
I am not here to say something is nice or not, I have been very clear when saying it was my opinion in my previous posts !
As far as we are talking about colors, I had to understand what we were talknig about, so I have been looking in my English dictionnary (Harrab's shorter) and did not find "burgandy" but burgundy wich is a part of France well known for his vine : bourgogne ! So if we are talking about the colors of bourgogne's vines, wich bourgogne ? In a small or a big glass ? Sorry for that bad joke !
Anyway we are refering to a dark color far away from the vibrant and stunning red of a lipstick or a coral.
I have been looking at all the sharp's sunglows pics I could find or get since they have been bred for the first time and I still don't like their colors, the same for the albinos I don't like this burnt orange. I also would like to see some of the sharp sunglows at 2 years old to see how they have turned out.
I can't post pics that are not mine, I can just give that link to tell me , how do you call the colors of that tail ?
http://www.classreptilia.com/Sun05m5Stail_16_1.jpg

PGoss Jan 13, 2006 02:43 PM

I have yet to see a snake that looks better in a picture than in person. There are way too many factors that contribute to a true life rendention in a picture. Granted that tail looks a little brown. It is the picture. That tail in person would be very orange. The same reasoning plays with pastels. It is very hard to capture the pinks. Snap some pictures of your animals and see how many show their true colors. It will only be a handful out of a hundred. Underexposure, overexposure, flash, improper lighting, etc... Way too many factors can make an amazing animal look plain ugly. How many sharp albinos or sunglows have you seen in person? When you have seen dozens of each in person, then you can make a decision with some meat to it. It may be the same opinion you allrerady have, but sometimes pictures can be very misleading.

Phil Goss

michaelburton Jan 13, 2006 07:33 PM

In that picture the tail really doesn't look brown to me. I don't think its a matter of opinion of what color sharp sunglows are. They either are, or are not brown. I do respect you opinion that you don't like any Sharps. I personally love them and their burnt orange color and the fact that they gain more of this as they mature. I also love the lipstick sunglows as you do. Tom Burke has done something truely amazing with that line. I just was curious to see a Sharp sunglow that was really brown. Great debate below.
Michael Burton

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