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I have two 05 Brooks snows that look completely different and I am
trying to figure out why. Anyone have any ideas?
 

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...differences in other species like corns? Snow corns can look very much different from snake to snake.
I think it must be the lines that have been used in the FL kings as well. Some will show more "purple" and some less.
Maybe s T or T-, I don't know. The experts will chime in with help I'm sure..
Either way, you have 2 nice snakes there.
:Mark
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You have two different lines there.

The one in top pic is probably from the Lemke line of lavender brooks. Isis reptiles have carried these transparent pinkish snows I beleive.
There are also snows with different axantic lines used. I have bred the lemke ax and BHB ax snows and they both look different.

BTW I should add the BHB line of axanthic is NOT compatiple with the the more popular Lemke or New England line of axanthics. So if the snow on the bottom is a derivative from the BHB line (its hard to tell from that pic being a bit off color)you will not get snows from breeding snow to snow because the top pic is from the Lemke line of axanthics.

Tim Ricks also produced tow differnt loking snows from the same line. One he called "Pearl phase" and the other a regular snow. ..

at least that how I recall it.

Thanks for all of the info. I have the top snow's axanthic brother which looks like a New England strain so that does explain the difference. The one on the bottom is one I received from your earlier this year.

Thanks for all of the info. I have the top snow's axanthic brother which looks like a New England strain so that does explain the difference. The one on the bottom is one I received from your earlier this year.

Okay that explains a lot. I thought it looked like one of my snows from the BHB line.
Now I did not talk to him directly (only via email) but I a breeder that I know says he bred a BHB line axanthic to a Lemke line axanthic and the babies came out normals. The breeder is Rick Trenny (aka Renegade Reptiles) and I am not absolutly positive the BHB line he has is a BHB line but I cannot figure out what else it could be. So the two snows you have are not supposed to be allelic. But I think you should breed them just to see what happens. If the genes are not allelic you would get lavenders and possible hets of each gene involved but no axanthics or snows.

I also think the pink snow you have is called Pearl phase by some.

Anyway both are nice snows and I wish you success with them.

BHB snow:

BHB lavender clutchmate to above:

BHB axanthic:

BHB axanthic and NE axanthic adults

Sulfur snow:

BTW your snow father is a sulfur lavender male het for axanthic and the mother is a BHB axanthic that is het for lavender.

So your snow that you got from me is also has some of the Sulfur phase (12.5%)in it.

I somehow screwed up on the picture host site host site and did not enlarge the pics before posting so I did not see them rreal well. So I posted the wrong pics. The first two pics at the top of the post ARE NOT BHB SNOWS. THEY ARE NEWBORN SULFUR SNOWS..........Big difference.

When the sulfur snaows are born they are a real bright white, almost flouresnt white color and when they get bigger they get the blue/purple and yellow hues.

Here is a BHB snow.

Sorry about the confusion.

Well if I remember correctly the two photos you posted of the sulfur snow are the same ones you used in the ad and was the exact snake I received. I will not be able to breed the two snows together as they are both female but I will be using the normal het snow from you on both so maybe that will iron it out as well.

Again thanks for the advice.

okay it hard to tell from the pic because it washed out kinda yellow and blurry. I though you were one of the people who bought a BHB snow from me this past season in '05. I did not produce any sulfur snows in '05. So did you get this snake from me in '04? Seems very small for even an '05 much less an '04. ??If you got a Sulfur snow then the genes are all alellic and you will produce snows from the other line you have.

I had the wrongs pics listed on the wrong year. I have a host site where I list the snakes by the year that they were produced. Somehow the snow I posted as a BHB was on the wrong page. The one you received from me is from last year and is on the first three pics listed as a BHB line and is supoosedly not compatiple with the Lemke (Pearl) snow.

You have a BHB line that is 12.5% sulfur. It is not a sulfur snow.

If anyone reading this was confused before then now they are really confused. My bad.

Ahhh I get it...I think.

I think I followed what you were saying, but you could maybe do a summary post with pics of the different lines just to clarify which was what? Is there anyone consistently producing pearl phase snows?

Also, how is it that the sulfur lavenders are capable of producing snows? If you merely crossed the sulfurs with lavenders, how are they all het for axanthic?
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>>I had the wrongs pics listed on the wrong year. I have a host site where I list the snakes by the year that they were produced. Somehow the snow I posted as a BHB was on the wrong page. The one you received from me is from last year and is on the first three pics listed as a BHB line and is supoosedly not compatiple with the Lemke (Pearl) snow.
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>>You have a BHB line that is 12.5% sulfur. It is not a sulfur snow.
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>>If anyone reading this was confused before then now they are really confused. My bad.
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So WHO is on first? LOL. Glad to see i'm not the only one who victimizes himself sometimes with "organization"!
peace
terry

...please! My head hurts.
:Mark
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