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hi
i am from Taiwan
i get confusing with how to distinguish from these three types of salmon boas.....
hope someone would tell me.
thanks a lot.

Hypo and salmon are the same term used for a snake. Supe salmon or super hypo: when you breed a hypo to a normal and all offspring are hypo, that means the hypo or salmon you bred to the normal is a super. You breed a hypo (non- super) to a normal, about one-half will be hypo.
Hope that helps ya out.
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thanks a lot
but i'm afraid i could not follow you well.....
sir you mean that "hypo" = "salmon"?
so normal salmon = hypo salmon ?
with doing a survey of kingsnake's market,the definition of salmon gets me more confused.
it's really Greek to me......
if i got a salmon boa , how could i recognize it with the feature ?
and what's their offsprings from :
hypo salmon cross normal salmon = ?
super salmon cross nornal salmon = ?
super salmon cross hypo salmon = ?

by the way, what's the "pastel" salmon? the feature is...?
sorry for asking too many questions,i have no information about boas in Taiwan.

We'll normals are just that Normal, Hypo's are Hypomelanistic, wich means reduced black pigmant, that has been proven genetic. the Hypo Trait in Boas is Co-Dominant, meaning if you breed a Hypo to a Normal Roughly Half will be Hypo Half will be Normal. If you breed a Super Hypo to a Normal you will get all Hypos. The problem is most Supers Hypos can look like normal hypos, and the only way to prove its a super is to breed it. The Terms Hypo and Salmon are two different things, Salmon is a Type of Hypo that was originally bred by Rich Ihle of Salmonboa.com, Salmons are a form of Hypomelanistic boa. So when calling them Salmon you are referring to a line of Hypos. Salmons are Hypos, but not All Hypos are Salmons. There are also Orange Tail Hypos wich have more of central american blood in them, where the Hypo Salmons have more Columbian Blood in them. Hope that helps, as far as telling the difference, after looking at many pics and actual boas, you will start to easily tell a Hypo from a normal, it gets really hard to tell Hypos from Super Hypos sometimes. Good Luck, they are one of my favorites...Some examples...first pic is of a Hypo salmon, second Normal, and third is a Poss. Super Hypo Orangetail.

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thanks , i think you've helped me out.
i guess we could not recognize super salmon for sure,so add "possible" forward,right?
by the way , all hypos might breed sunglow? or only salmons work?

Any Hypo can create a Sunglow, a sunglow is just an albino Hypo, the salmon part is if you had a Hypo from the salmon line, then you could make Salmon Sunglows, but nobody really calls them that, they just call them Sunglow.
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Hypo is a dominant genetic trait that shows if at least ony hypo gene is present.

Heterozygous or het is the correct term for having only one abberent gene.

Super referes to having both genes Hypo. Only two ways to prove:

1. Raise it up and breed it to a normal, if all the babies are hypo, then the snake being proven is a super. Could also be done crossing the test subject with a known het for hypo. Since only 1/4 of the babies should be "normal" or non-hypo, IMO having all hypo's would not 100% prove out the super parent. Even more so for a smaller sized litter.

2. All the babies from crossing two known supers would also be supers.

As stated in other posts, Salmon is a specific hypo line.

Sunglows are the combination of two genetic traits, Hypo which you only need one gene to get the trait to show and albino which is recessive and must have both genes present for the trait to show.

Three different hypo's, notice the difference in coloring:

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Thanks,

Dave "Rainbows-R-Us"

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB)
4.12 Brazilian Rainbow Boa
1.0 Hypomelanistic BRB
0.1 Het for Hypomelanistic BRB
0.1 BCI "Elvira" normal from 1989
1.0 BCI albino / het-anery
0.1 BCI Hypo / het-albino
0.1 BCI Anery / het-albino
0.1 BCI Hypo (possible super)
1.0 BCI albino het stripe
1.0 BCI salmon hypo
0.1 BCI ghost

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

that is salmon , or not?
if it is , what kind of it?

thanks you two very much
i've learned a lot