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Eastern Milk RePost

milksandbeer Jan 19, 2006 07:42 PM

A while back I posted a pic of my Gimer County, Georgia CBB
Eastern Milk, which generated a lot of discussion about whether
the snake was pure Eastern or had influence of syspila, or even
had amaura or Scarlet King influence. I said that I would post some pics of the parents when I got them and here they are.

First my CBB 5 month old snake again:

Here is the male parent WC Gilmer Co.

And this is the female parent, also WC Gilmer Co.

What do ya'll think now? The male is certainly unusually colored.
The female fairly typical I guess, except for head pattern.

Scott

Replies (9)

adamjeffery Jan 19, 2006 10:35 PM

is that the only one that came out like that cuz damn that is an awesome snake, if you look at my post earlier i was talking about easterns like that. i found one when i was a kid that looked just like that and easterns are the only tri colors around here im from cattaraugus county n.y. just on the pa ny border south of buffalo. it gets pretty cold here but i love herping in the summer time. i seen two easterns last year but they were grey and brown quite plain actually ive never seen another one so brite well good luck
adam
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0.1.0 normal corn het hypo,anery
1.0.0 snow corn het hypo,anery,amel
1.0.0 amel corn unknown hets(4.5ft long)
1.0 sinacorn
0.0.2 snapping turtles
0.0.1 3 lined mud turtle
1.1 kenyan sand boas

milksandbeer Jan 20, 2006 07:25 AM

I think all the snakes from that clutch looked pretty much like mine. They won't stay that bright red but will most likely brown out or maroon out as they get older. I've seen some really nice Easterns before but I've never seen an Eastern that was very bright red as an adult snake. Young Easterns are much brighter than adults.

Scott

kingsnaken Jan 20, 2006 05:19 PM

I Think what you might be looking for is a Coastal Plains Milksnake. They look kind of like that Red one of MilksandBeer. If you go to Carolinaherps.com and click on colubrids, you'll see what I think they are the prettiest coastals I have seen. I have dealt with Paul allot. He breeds some really nice stuff. I'm not sure when he'll have Coastals, but they are worth the wait. Drop him a message to see. Derek

adamjeffery Jan 20, 2006 10:30 PM

they ar ebeutifull snakes he doesnt have any listed available right now but they are beutifull i might look into them some more.
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0.1.0 normal corn het hypo,anery
1.0.0 snow corn het hypo,anery,amel
1.0.0 amel corn unknown hets(4.5ft long)
1.0 sinacorn
0.0.2 snapping turtles
0.0.1 3 lined mud turtle
1.1 kenyan sand boas

kingsnaken Jan 20, 2006 10:33 PM

His breeders might be a little young right now, but he could give you an idea of when or who might have some this summer. He really is a great guy to deal with. I have seen other coastals, but none like his. Derek

Ken_kaniff Jan 20, 2006 09:53 AM

Non venomous snakes collected from the wild in Georgia? Interesting indeed. Ken.

milksandbeer Jan 20, 2006 05:40 PM

I know what your saying, but I didn't collect the snakes and don't know who did. That's just the word about the locality.
I think they came from a show somewhere.
Hell, for all I know they might be Alabama snakes.

Scott

kingsnaken Jan 20, 2006 05:26 PM

I was at a local pet store here in Maryland last year, and some people rescued a snake that looked similar to that on, but its tail was a little damaged from someone trying to kill it with a shovel because they thought it was venomous. I got to hold it, and it was a very nice snake. They let it heal then let it go in a safer area. They told me it was a coastal plains milk, which are kind of rare around this area. Derek

dniles Jan 20, 2006 07:13 PM

Scott,

I was one of few that responded before saying that your baby eastern looked like it had some syspilla influence in it.

The adult female looks like an eastern to me but the adult male looks like it has some syspilla influence since it doesn't have any blotches on the side of the snake like the mother does.

In any event, your baby snake is beautiful, you should be really pleased with it. Keep posting pictures as it grows so we can see how it looks as an adult.
DNS Reptiles

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Dave Niles

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