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i got my first pair of regular tara's about a month ago, and ive been wondering if there are any albinos out there and if so whos breeding / selling them. thanks

I think I saw one a while ago. It looked somewhat like an amel hondo if I remember correctly. I am sure someone can answer your question better and maybe even throw out a pic.
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Maybe you are thinking of hypo or lavender Tarahumaras? There is one owned by Troy Whitacre that appears to be pure knoblochi that has gray instead of black. I believe he got it from Ben Siegel. Erik Kikel also has one that looks the same that for sure he got from Ben Siegel. So far the trait has not been proven genetic as far as I know but it does look exactly like the hypo or lavender trait that has been proved in many other snakes.

Well considering that in the 1990's the price of Taras's were high ($450) and Arizona Mt Kings were not ($125), there were A LOT cross breeding between the two to produce more "Tara's". Hence a lot of Tara's that had AZ Mt King blood in them.

Now that we have albino AZ Mt. Kings, it won't be long that we have albino "Tara's".

Kerby...

...beat me to it. I should've just put "ditto" on the header.
Funny, I have seen at shows where nice pyros fetched higher $$ than the knobs lately.
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That Pyros and taras are the same. You can and do find both color morphs together in nature. You can also hatch both from the same clutch from wild parents.

This (tara) color morph is dominate in the southern parts of pyro ranges and becomes recessive as you move north. It still occurs in southern Az. and northern sonora. Cheers

But they are still separate sub-species. Pyros in the north and knobs in Mexico with a natural mixing of the two in southern Arizona.

Just like the Sonoran Gopher snake and Great Basin Gopher snake mix in northern Arizona.

Kerby...

The problem is, there are normal appearing pyros in mex, within the range and with normal Tara's

Where as, there are no deserticola in the middle of affinis range or visa versa. Also with gophers there are more then color and pattern differences. There is also scalation differences.

Of course I do understand, folks name all sorts of things, all sorts of names with or without real reason. In my opinion, its a pattern type, which kingsnakes commonly express. Cheers