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Some various milksnake pics...

pweaver Jan 23, 2006 02:52 PM

This is a vanishing pattern male that I produced in '05.
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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

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pweaver Jan 23, 2006 02:53 PM
NsM Jan 24, 2006 06:49 AM

He is awesome man, great job.
All of them looks great, Thanks for sharing the photos .

Nevo Schwartz

davester Jan 24, 2006 09:00 PM

That's a cool little guy! In your experience with vanishing patterns have you ever had vanishing offspring hatch when only one of the adults is vanishing?
Thanks

pweaver Jan 25, 2006 07:15 AM

actually, the parents of the vp above are pretty much normal hypos. The father is a nice pinstripe hypo, with just a little bit of vp. The mother is just a plain hypo. In this case, it's the father that seems to be the carrier of this trait. Two years ago he bred to a totally unrelated het-hypo and produced this nearly patternless female.

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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

pweaver Jan 23, 2006 02:55 PM

this is one from my line of Extremes...
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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

davester Jan 24, 2006 09:06 PM

Hi Paul, I remember you hatching this little one and I was wondering what was your recipe? It looks very similar to your Falcon Extreme. Maybe you can share a little history on the extreme hypo morph?
Keep'em fat and happy!!

pweaver Jan 23, 2006 02:55 PM

this is one from Falcon's line...
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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

pweaver Jan 23, 2006 02:56 PM

from Dunham's line.
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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

pweaver Jan 23, 2006 02:57 PM

produced by Tony D.
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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

dniles Jan 23, 2006 07:13 PM

Awesome pictures Paul. Thanks for sharing. You have an excellent collection.

Is the hypo coastal plains a new addition to your collection? I don't remember you saying you had any of those when we spoke last fall.

Maybe we can swap some hatchlings in the summer.

DNS Reptiles

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Dave Niles

pweaver Jan 23, 2006 07:46 PM

yeah, I picked the two coastal up from Tony late in the year. The Tyrrell is actually het-hypo. I hope to eventually create a hypo Tyrrell.
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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

Tony D Jan 24, 2006 08:52 AM

I need to get a better pic of this guy. He is by blood 50% MD, 50% southern local stock. He took pinks out of the egg and is growing like a weed! By far these are the most harty coastals line I've produced. Can't wait to see the next generation!

justinian2120 Jan 24, 2006 09:58 AM

that's good news,and a very pretty snake....you know regarding coastals i have always insisted on keeping mine locale-specific/pure/etc...otherwise i would have bought some of those hypos when you had them for sale last year tony-they are very nice looking...but i decided to go with pure a 100% calvert county specimen-and after losing him to a somewhat drawn out battle with what manifested itself as a respiratory condition,i can't help but wonder if a non-specific animal would have warded it off,or even developed it to begin with...i have the frozen specimen in my freezer,and noticed a black rotten spot down in the snakes upper abdominal tract,say 2/3 the way down his body...i generally feel people put too much on the new bloodlines theory,but these fossorial guys may be one of the few cases where it rings true,the need for 'fresh blood' due to such longtime specific linebreeding.

Tony D Jan 24, 2006 12:58 PM

I go back and forth on the local thing. With coastals however, because so few founders were succesfully integrated into breeding programs the gene pool is in my opinion just too shallow to do a "strict" locality thing. I also felt morph production was a bit counter to the locality ethic and so had no problems entering cross breeding projects. One can only speculate about the demise of your animal and if inbreeding had role in it or if an outcrossed animal might have survived. My take on it is simple, I get 400 each for these guys once they are feeding. The LEAST I can do is make sure I do everything in my power to ensure I'm giving my customers the best genetics possible. In my estimation that rules out overly line-bred animals.

thomas davis Jan 24, 2006 04:47 PM

man those are truly amazing snakes if theres a list to aquire offspring please put me on it!,,,,,,thomas davis

pweaver Jan 23, 2006 02:58 PM

also from Tony D.
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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

Malays Jan 25, 2006 01:30 PM

Fanatastic looking snakes. I imagine ground skink eaters as babies?

pweaver Jan 25, 2006 01:32 PM

I can never find skinks, so I use mouse tails.
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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

Malays Jan 25, 2006 01:36 PM

Okay thanks. I imagined the babies were tiny so thats why thought of ground skinks . Never thought of mouse tails . I have used ground skinks for scarlets thats why thought of them.

kingsnaken Jan 23, 2006 04:47 PM

Just beautiful Paul. Every one of your pix is great. Are you going to breed your hypo coastal? Derek

jeph Jan 23, 2006 07:29 PM

All of those are beautiful snakes and great phots as well. I have not checked in here much lately,but glad I did today. I've always said to myself, "sometime I'll get some of those hypo coastals", the color on them is great.
jeff teel

pweaver Jan 23, 2006 07:44 PM

I don't have a hypo coastal male, so I'll probably breed her to a normal Tyrrell male if I don't pick up one by the time she is ready.
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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

gzyv15a Jan 23, 2006 05:39 PM

I've never seen vanishing pattern hondurans like that before. Those are truly incredibly beautiful. The intensity of orange is unbelievable.

adamjeffery Jan 23, 2006 10:57 PM

hey paul,
first let me nice "very nice pics"
second in the first pic it looks like youve really got a finger for snakes ha ha lol j/k
no really my question i have been wondering is when will you have any coastals available for sale you truly have the best lokking sround. let me know thanks.
adam
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0.0.1 3 lined mud turtle
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pweaver Jan 24, 2006 05:56 AM

I have a new breeder female coming on line this year. If she produces then I should have them mid-summer.
Paul
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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

stevep Jan 24, 2006 09:39 AM

Purchased from Anthony Chodan - produced by Ted Thompson
I have finally found a male (Bob Deptula) (same stripe line).
Steve

Malays Jan 25, 2006 01:31 PM

Wow that is stunning overall great looking type of milks but that in particular is outrageous.

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