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....Have a look at the adult Suri PIC that Gus has a few posts down the forum. I love seeing beautiful adult Suris like that. Boa Constricters lose red color and color contrast and become darker as they age. I know this happens with Bcc but IMO most adult Suris are at least three times as beautiful as ANY adult Bci. Most of the albinos are extremely pretty as babies but gradually lose the reds and contrast and get more and more of that chicken fat yellow color like adult albino Burms as they age. The other morphs get too dark like adult normal imperators as they age and are not particularly pretty as adults. We see lots of PICs of really pretty baby morph Boas. We do not see so many PICs of adult morphs posted here. Do you ever wonder why? If you have a PIC of an adult morph that you think approaches the beauty of that Suri that Gus posted I would like to see it. I know you are going to say ....."beauty is in the eye of the beholder". To which I reply....."pffft". Show us what YOU think are beautiful adult morphs that are as pretty as the exceptional Suri that Gus posted. You have been challenged.
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Jeff

Since you mentioned albinos, I'll post this guy. I actually prefer his adult yellow colors. He was an outstanding baby, but I think the adult yellow color along with the orange and pink really make him stand out. Here is a pic of him as an adult and I'll post his baby pic in the next post for comparison.

Matt Crabe

Baby pic by Pete Kahl.

I think I would rather have that Suri from Gus.
Joel pretz

Matt,
...I have to admit that that really is a pretty snake. He has retained the red and the contrast amazingly well. To be perfectly fair it looks like that snake and the Suri that Gus posted are probably both young adults. The beautiful Suri that Lee posted looks like it might be an older and larger snake though. How old and how big is your snake? Does anyone have a large older adult albino that looks as nice as this albino that Matt has posted?
Jeff

>>Since you mentioned albinos, I'll post this guy. I actually prefer his adult yellow colors. He was an outstanding baby, but I think the adult yellow color along with the orange and pink really make him stand out. Here is a pic of him as an adult and I'll post his baby pic in the next post for comparison.
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>>Matt Crabe
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This albino female is 100% het for stripe and just over 6ft at almost 3 years old.

And a older male 02 Jungle.

An 04 4ft SuperSalmon female (probable super)

05 Cherry SuperSalmon Eye Shot

And here are a couple of photos I am linking from PeteKahls site of a Sunglow jungle and a SalmonJungle and a super Jungle.

Oh, and then of course, there is the super Motley? And have you all seen Squaretails in person yet? WOW!

What about the patternless Harly?

Or the Scoria! WOW!

Lol, I like pure stuff, but Morphs are to die for!

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MORE MORPHS!!!

He asked for mature animals. The oldest animal you posted was an 02, the rest are younger and the ones you linked to seem to be juveniles. Most boas don't really ugly up until 5 years of age.

Jeff,
You are right. He is a young adult. He is a June '03 animal and is about 4.5 ft. Pete Kahl has some nice adults. Here is a link to one of his: http://www.pkreptiles.com/collection/view_details.asp?id=70000003

Also, Ruben has an awesome female for sale in the classifieds right now.

Here is a pic of an adult normal female BCI with what I consider to be great color as an adult. Not all brown out. This female is even darker than normal as she is in the middle of ovulating.

Matt

Here's what she looks like when not ovulating.
BTW, awesome animals Mark.

Though beauty is definately in the eye of the beholder. Here's a pic from a couple months ago of my 8 year old female Guyana. I have several friends who keep morphs & I've never seen one that even compared. Salmons turn brown, Albinos turn into banana slugs, & Bloods, well, ugh. I guess I'm really more of a color guy when it comes to the red tails. If someone could show me a firey 10 year old morph, I'd be the first one knocking on the door to pick up some babies. Though I'm sure they'd be charging way more than I would be willing to pay.

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

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Jeff, I should probably stay out of this but, I challenge you to post any pic of any boa you have to compare it to Gus's suri. I just don't think it is fair to compare different boa ssp. to each other.
I happen to like all boas and appreciate all of them. I know your post was just for fun. So for fun lets see some of your boas.

cnb2,
...This is one of my adult male Suris. He is 7.5 feet long and is about six years old. He is not nearly as pretty as the Suri that Gus posted.

This is one of my female Suris. She is around 6.5 to 7 feet long and is about 5 years old. The red on her tail is not as pretty as the Suris that Gus and Lee posted but I challenge anyone to show me a Bci this size with a head that is this pretty.

The challenge continues. Let's see those PICs of BIG adult morphs. Perhaps some people do not notice that we see lots of pretty PICs of Bci morphs when they are small and not so many PICs of the adults. Look back through the forum and you will see that there have been loads of PICs posted of big Bcc and they look great.
Jeff

>>Jeff, I should probably stay out of this but, I challenge you to post any pic of any boa you have to compare it to Gus's suri. I just don't think it is fair to compare different boa ssp. to each other.
>>I happen to like all boas and appreciate all of them. I know your post was just for fun. So for fun lets see some of your boas.
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Those are really nice. I wouldn't say that they are not as nice as Gus's. I love suris and one day I might own some. I believe suris are gorgeous boas and probably meet the looks that most people like about boas. I just happen to like morphs as well and I don't believe it's fair to compare them to suris or to any other boa.
Thanks,
Chuck

Just a normal adult male suriname.

that is just beautiful...np
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0.1 columbian redtail (gravid) 6ft
1.0 pastel 6 1/2 ft
1.0 burmese 10ft
1.0 redtail baby
0.1 surinam(purple)
50 rats
3.4 dwarf hamsters
1.1 dogs
0.2 farret
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These are all between 2 and 5 years old. I have some others but not as old.

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They are all great. The 2nd one is so clean and light man! Just great. What is his/her lineage?

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I dont really have much info on her. Picked her from a local guy when she was a baby as a normal. She blossomed into this.

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I would first like to say that BCC's do look amazing as adults. Just look at the one posted below by Gus. Truly beautiful. But you just can't compare BCC to BCI morphs. I personally don't work with BCC because of their temperment and their size. Yes, some morphs do lose some color as they mature but they are still considered beautiful to me. I am personally working with Sharp albinos and jungles both of which gain color as adults and this is one reason I have chosen to work with them. But I still don't see how you can compare the two. Its like comparing a retic to a burm, they are just two different snakes with very different qualities. I believe both BCC and BCI morph adults are beautiful in their own way.
Michael Burton

Here is a shot of my adult hypo. The only adult I own.

I really like your collection but I have never seen your jungle? Can you post some pics?
-Greg Reinert-

Don't have one yet. LOL. I should have said I am planning on working with jungles. Sorry. But I promise to post tons of pics as soon as I get him.
Michael Burton

I agree with Jeff on this one you don't see to many BIG Adult morphs that keep there color. I love pure BCC but I also like BIG BCI that keep there color too. I do not have any adult BCC to show off at this time but I do have one of the best looking normal adult BCI around in my opinion. This is Xena she is a Colombian BCI and she is about 10 feet long 60 lbs and around 14 years old. I would love to see a morph that is the same size as Xena. Then we would see if they can keep there color. I do admit I would love to see a sunglow that keeps its color and is the size of Xena. That would just blow my mind away.

Thanks for looking,
Tom
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HUMINA, HUMINA, HUMINA!!! Boy I hate tryin' to spell noises. That thing's gorgeous!

Quig

This girl is every bit of 6.5 - 7 feet long and over 20 pounds.

The color is more intense in person, believe it or not!

She is not a morph, or atleast unproven as far as morphs go.

I can not wait to see what she produces, no matter what it looks like!

Thanks guys, Bci Joe

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

This girl was sold to me as a normal.

Unfortunately I sold her, and didn't get to see what she makes or what she would've looked like at 8 feet long.

In this pic, she is about 5' long and 10 pounds or so.

Thanks, Bci Joe

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

Very nice snake! Love her tail!

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

I chose to go with females because males tend to hold their colors better into adulthood. While these might not be able to compare to some that will be posted, I do think they are rather nice.

Here is a 6.5' 3-4 year old female:

Here is a 5.5' 3-4 year old female:

Here is my 8' female, 6-7 years old:

Her belly & sides:

Of course, as beautiful as they are, I am still partial to my Suri, 7', 6 year old female:

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Delusions of Grandeur feed the EGO...

....The results are in. No contest! The Suris and other Bcc win. Thanks for posting your Bci PICs. Some of them look very nice but you lose. Thanks for playing and be sure to pick up some Rice-A-Roni on your way out.
Life is good.......especially good if you have Surinam Boas,
Jeff

>>....Have a look at the adult Suri PIC that Gus has a few posts down the forum. I love seeing beautiful adult Suris like that. Boa Constricters lose red color and color contrast and become darker as they age. I know this happens with Bcc but IMO most adult Suris are at least three times as beautiful as ANY adult Bci. Most of the albinos are extremely pretty as babies but gradually lose the reds and contrast and get more and more of that chicken fat yellow color like adult albino Burms as they age. The other morphs get too dark like adult normal imperators as they age and are not particularly pretty as adults. We see lots of PICs of really pretty baby morph Boas. We do not see so many PICs of adult morphs posted here. Do you ever wonder why? If you have a PIC of an adult morph that you think approaches the beauty of that Suri that Gus posted I would like to see it. I know you are going to say ....."beauty is in the eye of the beholder". To which I reply....."pffft". Show us what YOU think are beautiful adult morphs that are as pretty as the exceptional Suri that Gus posted. You have been challenged.
>>Life is good!!!
>>Jeff

I don't know too much about BCC'c but havn't they been around much longer than most BCI morphs. This could be one reason they look so beautiful as adults. Its been done over the years through selective breeding. I could be completely off the mark here, but I'm sure the first BCC that they pulled out of the wild didn't look like the ones that were posted. Just give the BCI morphs a few more years, then we can compare some adults. Although I'm sure it won't change your mind. LOL.
Michael Burton

Micheal,

It is actually the opposite. Most of the BCI lines have been around longer. Most of the suris you see as adults are originally wild caught, or farmed babies (from a gravid WC female). I would say a much smaller percentage is F1 captive bred. There are very few F2 out there (unlike colombians where mutliple generation animals are easy to find). Surinames come in a wide variety, but most of what you see in captivity looks similar to some of the nicer batches that have brought it.

No BCC lines have been selectively breed any where near what has happened in colombians. Most of this is the fact that BCC take longer to get to maturity and are harder to get to reproduce.

We are just on the tip of what will be produced in BCC over the next few years!

Anyways, both sub species are beautiful IMO......

Thanks for all that info. It looks like I really don't know anything about BCC except that they are beautiful. Thanks again.
michaelburton

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my girl that I posted a couple of threads up was pulled directly out of the Suriname wilds about 3 years ago, during an expodition.
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