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Another sweet litter from my salmon male and orange "pastelish" female. Looks like they duplicated the results from last year. Most of you have seen a million pics of my holdbacks from '05 season. Looks like around 25 live 3 slugs....(perfect run of no slugs for 5 litters is ruined) lol.

Now for a question....
It appears that my female may have not delivered everything she had...She was contracting 5 hours after giving birth to the first bunch, but nothing came out. She looks slightly swollen but not very much. I am taking her to the vet for x-rays or ultra sound, but I was wondering if anyone else has seen this and if so how things turned out. Thanks in advance for any replies or ideas.

Now some Pics...
Instead of posting a million pics I just figured it would be easier to use a link to my photobucket account.

copy and paste
http://photobucket.com/albums/v244/robertmcphee/Birthing Pics/

Thank you
Bob McPhee

>>Another sweet litter from my salmon male and orange "pastelish" female. Looks like they duplicated the results from last year. Most of you have seen a million pics of my holdbacks from '05 season. Looks like around 25 live 3 slugs....(perfect run of no slugs for 5 litters is ruined) lol.
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>>Now for a question....
>>It appears that my female may have not delivered everything she had...She was contracting 5 hours after giving birth to the first bunch, but nothing came out. She looks slightly swollen but not very much. I am taking her to the vet for x-rays or ultra sound, but I was wondering if anyone else has seen this and if so how things turned out. Thanks in advance for any replies or ideas.
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>>Now some Pics...
>>Instead of posting a million pics I just figured it would be easier to use a link to my photobucket account.
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>>copy and paste
>>http://photobucket.com/albums/v244/robertmcphee/Birthing Pics/
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>>Thank you
>>Bob McPhee
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

I see about 10-15 just glancing over those pix that I really want.

I am extremely happy to see you successful once again, always glad to see one of the nice guys produce beautiful animals.

As far as the contracting after she's finished. I am trying to aim ya but darn it, you must have fallen asleep at the keyboard, or more likely in staring at the beautiful new arrivals. Talk to ya later.
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Great pics! Looks like some real beauties! Andy

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Back in 03, I had a Suriname have birthing complications and she ended up retaining a bunch of babies. Within the week following the initial birth she passed a couple of babies. Actually she didn't pass them totally on her own. Part of the babies were hanging out the vent. Gently I helped her get them out. She was behaving totally normal, resumed feeding etc but she still looked a little thick. I took her to the vet for x-rays and sure enough she had more in her. The reason they were difficult to see and to pass is the membranes had already ruptured and the snake were laying in her oviduct long ways.

She had surgery, three more babies were removed. She was not bred in 04. I bred her this year, 05, and got 19 beautiful babies with no complications.

Good luck with her,
Mark Damico

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Very nice litter Bob, Congrats.

To your question. I wouldn't worry about the Xray. When a female gives birth to a relatively larger litter like the one you had with few slugs, it is very rare that she didn't get things out. It is natural for her to contract and contract many times and sometimes it lasts for a few hours with nothing to come out. Sometimes she opens up and extracts her Anus and it even looks like a baby or two may come out, but that is just the natural process of her getting everything out. Since she was contracting on her own, and nothing came out, you are fine. Where you get nervous is if she STOPS contracting and she looks big. Even though she may look like she is a little big, that is normal. Some shrink right up and other larger girls stay big.

Here is the key. Feed her. If she is agressive on the food, you're fine. If she doesn't eat, then there is something wrong. Pull her out, and make sure she doesn't smell the babies, and offer her a meal..

If you do take her to get an x-ray, that is stressful for her. Also, if she does have babies in her, the only thing you can do is give her oxytocin, and that just makes her contract and contract. Since you saw her contract and contract with nothing coming out, that is what will happen if you give her oxytocin.

Say she does have babies stuck, the only smart way to get them out is to have a qualified vet remove them. If you give her Oxytocin, and she contracts and contracts with nothing coming out, that can be very harmful to her.

I bet you 100 bucks she is fine, but try the feed thing first. If she doesn't eat, then take her to the Vet and get your X ray.

IF she gobbles down the food, you're fine.

Best of luck, and congrats on the litter.

Take Care, Jeremy Stone

Thanks again

Bob McPhee

Great littler!! Congrats!!! Hope everything turns out ok with the mom.
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