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Rattlesnake Round-up Crusade

TimCole Jan 27, 2006 11:50 AM

I would like some informed opinions concerning an idea speaking out against the Round-ups here in Texas.

I am contemplating writing a letter concerning the them and pointing out the environmental damage being done at their expense.

Contents of the letter would include the blatant violations of law enforcement by the following agencies:

TCEQ (Texas Commission on Environmental Quality) in regards to the illegal dumping of gasoline.

FDA (Food & Drug Administration) in regards to rattlesnake meat which has been soaked in gasoline and now being fed to the public.

TP&W (Texas Parks & Wildlife) Law Enforcement Division in regards to applicable collecting permits and hunting license.

ASPCA in regards to the obvious cruelty issues along with no food or water being provided.

1) NONE of these snakes are used by venom labs for venom extraction! The labs are very particular on locality and the health of the snakes they use.

2) There are very few recorded instances of rattlesnake bites to livestock.

I would add supportive letters and links to these topics.

I would also gather links from other sites which speak out against these events.

By putting this on my websites homepages search engines would pick it up quickly. Maybe we can inform the public enough to put pressure on regulating agencies to put a stop to this butchery. If more people with herp sites place this on their homepage I beleive it would effectively spread the word.

I am convinced that the only way to stop this is too educate the younger generation to not participate in this. If people stop attending and the money doesn't come in, the event draws to a halt.

By physically protesting, the organizers would welcome the media attention. Lets go at it from the angle of education and pressuring state and local authorities to enforce current regulations and DO THEIR JOBS!

Opinions and/or additional comments welcome.
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Tim Cole
www.Designeratrox.com/
www.AustinReptileService.net
www.AustinReptileExpo.com/
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Conservation through Education

Replies (5)

Carmichael Jan 27, 2006 02:21 PM

It would be neat to see the Texas herp contingent ban together, set up shop right next to existing rattlesnake roundup events and hold your own "rattlesnake roundup" and show the locals how it is done through education exhibits, interactive children's games and activities, beauty pagents (kind of mimic what they do), educational workshops, artist galleries, food/refreshment sales, etc.....cut the admission to half of what the other place charges, donate ALL proceeds to local charity (after out of pocket expenses are taken care of), find a national sponsor or local corporate sponsor, hit the media hard, heck, find a well known local rock band and have a benefit concert! Rattlesnake roundups only make money because people flock to them....you got fight fire with fire and having something nearby as a better alternative, at less costs, might show people that there is a much better way to treat rattlesnakes and a much better way to spend family time together. Just food for thought...knowing politics, I'm sure local government would make it very difficult for any other "entity" to set up shop near an established "icon"...but its worth a shot (set it up on private property or an unincorporated area).

Good luck,
Rob Carmichael, Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center
Lake Forest, IL

>>I would like some informed opinions concerning an idea speaking out against the Round-ups here in Texas.
>>
>>I am contemplating writing a letter concerning the them and pointing out the environmental damage being done at their expense.
>>
>>Contents of the letter would include the blatant violations of law enforcement by the following agencies:
>>
>> TCEQ (Texas Commission on Environmental Quality) in regards to the illegal dumping of gasoline.
>>
>> FDA (Food & Drug Administration) in regards to rattlesnake meat which has been soaked in gasoline and now being fed to the public.
>>
>> TP&W (Texas Parks & Wildlife) Law Enforcement Division in regards to applicable collecting permits and hunting license.
>>
>> ASPCA in regards to the obvious cruelty issues along with no food or water being provided.
>>
>>1) NONE of these snakes are used by venom labs for venom extraction! The labs are very particular on locality and the health of the snakes they use.
>>
>>2) There are very few recorded instances of rattlesnake bites to livestock.
>>
>> I would add supportive letters and links to these topics.
>>
>> I would also gather links from other sites which speak out against these events.
>>
>> By putting this on my websites homepages search engines would pick it up quickly. Maybe we can inform the public enough to put pressure on regulating agencies to put a stop to this butchery. If more people with herp sites place this on their homepage I beleive it would effectively spread the word.
>>
>> I am convinced that the only way to stop this is too educate the younger generation to not participate in this. If people stop attending and the money doesn't come in, the event draws to a halt.
>>
>> By physically protesting, the organizers would welcome the media attention. Lets go at it from the angle of education and pressuring state and local authorities to enforce current regulations and DO THEIR JOBS!
>>
>>Opinions and/or additional comments welcome.
>>-----
>>Tim Cole
>>www.Designeratrox.com/
>>www.AustinReptileService.net
>>www.AustinReptileExpo.com/
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<
>>Conservation through Education
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Rob Carmichael, Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center at Elawa Farm
Lake Forest, IL

phobos Jan 27, 2006 02:27 PM

Tim:

Although I don't know the exact laws being violated the EPA, USFW and possibly the USDA could also be added to the list.

The best way to end these hunts is to hook up with other "tree hugging" groups and sue the groups putting them on. If it becomes too expensive to put one on because of injunctions and court matters they will pull the plug.

Just read the thread about the round-up in PA. They are already crying it's getting to be not-profitable for the groups involved.

Educating them just simple will not work, they've been hybridzed too many times....lol

Al
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A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.
Groucho Marx

Feb 08, 2006 08:16 PM

ODESSA AMERICAN (Texas) 07 February 06 Snakes for catching and for eating at round-up - Rattlesnake lovers to gather in Sweetwater for 48th year (Elizabeth York)
Sweetwater: It may not be pretty or clean or even completely safe, but it’s a time-honored tradition that looks like it’s gaining momentum with time.
For the 48th year, the Sweetwater Jaycees of Sweetwater will host the World’s Largest Rattlesnake Round-Up from March 9 to March 12. The weekend will start with a parade, queen contest and dance, then move to snake hunting sessions, snake milking demonstrations and a cook-off featuring rattlesnake meat.
According to information from the Sweetwater Jaycees, the roundup began in 1958 when a group of area ranchers and farmers conceived of the idea to rid themselves and their livestock of rattlesnakes. To date, there have been more than 125 tons of Western diamondback Rattlesnakes turned in.
Scott Fortin, Jaycee president, said that normally 20,000 to 30,000 people come to the event. Many vendors, demonstrations, a cook-off and several dances help draw people, he said.
About 120 cooks participate in the cook-off, Fortin said. Many people akin rattlesnake to greasy chicken, Fortin said.
“It tastes more like frog legs to me,” Fortin said.
If rattlesnake isn’t pleasing in the mouth, visitors can find other snake products.
“We have vendors that have wallets, key chains,” Fortin said. “You name it, they have it.”
Rattlesnake hunters can win prizes and sell their snakes to vendors. The Jaycees buy about one-quarter of the snakes and the remainder goes to another vendor, Fortin said.
Trained Jaycee snake handlers perform demonstrations like determining the sex of the snakes by inserting a probe into their hind section, Fortin said.
“If it goes in, it’s male, if not, it’s female,” Fortin said.
The collected data is given to the Texas Parks & Wildlife Department, Fortin said.
Handlers extract venom using a funnel with a rubber membrane. The venom is used to make antivenin, he said.
Although it’s impossible to become immune to rattlesnake venom, Fortin said there will be ambulances and plenty of antivenin on hand in case of a bite.
“We haven’t had anybody bit in more than 12 years,” Fortin said. “That’s one of our big goals is safety.”
Kay Berryman, office manager of the Sweetwater Chamber of Commerce, has lived in Sweetwater for 26 years and is preparing to participate in the roundup for the 18th time.
“It’s a lot of fun,” Berryman said. “Everybody ought to come out at least once.”
Berryman said visitors should not miss seeing the snake handlers’ demonstrations and should volunteer to judge the cook-off by tasting chicken, ribs, brisket, chili and rattlesnake.
“A lot of people come from all over, and they seem to enjoy it,” Berryman said.
For the people of Sweetwater, the roundup is something like a homecoming.
“It’s a fun atmosphere for the people who live in Sweetwater,” Fortin said. “It’s like a family reunion.”
Snakes for catching and for eating at round-up

jerry Mar 15, 2006 10:54 AM

People should be informed also on the importance they play in the wild. The general public needs to be educated
When my Father was working with the Native Americans in Yuma, Arizona back in the '80's, there was alot of illness due to the rat population explosion. Rattlesnakes, that once kept the balance of nature, had been removed.

here are some exerps from http://www.hsus.org/wildlife/a_closer_look_at_wildlife/snakes/rattlesnakes.html

Helpful to Ecosystems and Humans
Rattlesnakes help control rodents such as mice, rats and prairie dogs, which can damage crops and spread disease if their numbers are not checked by natural predators. Rattlesnakes are, in turn, fed upon by a wide variety of predatory birds.

Conservation Status
Out of 16 species of rattlesnakes native to the United States, seven have been listed as threatened or endangered in one or more of 15 different states. Commercial exploitation, either for skins, gallbladders or for the live animal trade, is at least partially responsible for the endangerment of these species. In most parts of the country, the specialized habitats that rattlesnakes require for winter denning sites, and also for protection from excessive heat and fires, are becoming increasingly scarce.

Few states classify rattlesnakes as pests or vermin, but neither are they afforded game status in keeping with their commercial value and the hunting pressures placed upon them

Commonly Exploited Species
The species most commonly targeted by rattlesnake roundups and the skin-and-parts trade in the United States are the western diamondback rattlesnake, the prairie or western rattlesnake, the eastern diamondback rattlesnake, the timber or canebreak rattlesnake, and, to a lesser extent, the black-tailed rattlesnake. Roundups in Pennsylvania also target the copperhead and use nonvenomous species in certain contests

Depleted Rattlesnake Populations
No other wild animal in the United States is as extensively exploited and traded without regulation or oversight as the rattlesnake. Several species could become extinct just as we are beginning to understand their ecological importance. Rattlesnakes are important to their ecosystems. They prey on rodents, keeping the populations naturally in check so that the rodents do not cause crop damage or spread disease. Rattlesnakes are also important prey for raptors and other animals. Four species commonly found in roundups are the eastern diamondback rattlesnake, the western diamondback rattlesnake, the timber rattlesnake, and the western or prairie rattlesnake.

The timber rattlesnake is listed as endangered or threatened in several states, but no federal or international laws currently protect this species. The western diamondback rattlesnake, the eastern diamondback rattlesnake, and the western or prairie rattlesnake are not protected anywhere in their ranges, nor are they protected by any federal or international laws. We must act now to save remaining rattlesnake populations and gather the knowledge necessary for developing long-term conservation strategies.

Cruelty
Most rattlesnakes in roundups are driven out of their dens with gasoline, then stored without water or food in unhygienic conditions, and crammed tightly into containers for transport to and display at roundup events. Many snakes arrive at these events starved, dehydrated, or crushed to death. Those who survive may be used in public demonstrations and daredevil acts. The rattlesnakes are eventually decapitated, a cruel and inefficient method of slaughter for reptiles.

Environmental Damage
Rattlesnake collection methods are highly destructive to the habitats of rattlesnakes and other burrow dwellers such as gopher tortoises, indigo snakes, box turtles, coachwhip snakes, pine snakes, southern toads, and gopher frogs, along with burrowing owls, raccoons, opossums, and at least 32 species of invertebrates. The most popular collection method is to spray gasoline or other toxic chemicals into rattlesnake dens and resting places, which can render a burrow uninhabitable for years. Once introduced into the soil, gasoline could contaminate groundwater—the primary water source for many rural communities—thus poisoning wildlife, livestock, and humans.

Human Health Hazards
Roundups pose other threats to human health, too. Contrary to claims of organizers, roundups increase the number of snake-bite incidents in the host communities. This is due to collection activities and competitive events that bring humans with little or no experience into direct contact with rattlesnakes. The bites that result must be treated with antivenin, thereby depleting the local supply of antivenin available to treat bites that are genuinely accidental and unavoidable.
Another hazard is the snake meat sold at roundups for human consumption. Rattlesnakes at roundups are typically killed under unhygienic conditions, and their meat, often improperly prepared, may be contaminated with salmonella or other bacteria.

Antivenin
Organizers often attempt to legitimize roundups by claiming that they provide a supply of venom for antivenin, but their venom collection methods do not meet the strict guidelines required by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. No U.S. producer of antivenin would knowingly purchase venom collected at rattlesnake roundups. Rather than add to the nation's supply of antivenin, roundups deplete it by encouraging behavior that leads to snake bites.

Misinforming the Public
Many rattlesnake handlers and roundup organizers attempt to influence public perceptions about snakes with negative misinformation such as false bite statistics. Rattlesnake handlers typically promote their acts as "safety talks" or other sorts of public education. What the public actually sees, however, are demonstrations of extremely unsafe practices, which audience members may try later on their own. Permanent disfigurement or even death could result.

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norcalsnakemaster@comcast.net

jasonmc Jun 16, 2006 02:26 AM

Here is a petition to help stop them in New Mexico. I'm in California and even though I dont live their, I was still able to sign it. I went ahead and posted the link on my website. Here is the link. It would be great if you signed it.
http://new.petitiononline.com/roundups/petition.html

Keep up the good fight.
Jason Mc
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