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Coachwhip Account

sprem Jan 27, 2006 12:09 PM

This is my first post here. A guest on the new Big Bend Chat Page(BBNP) directed me to some coachwhip accounts here for the purpose of maintaining my credibility. I guess the accounts here are in the archeve. Anyway, this happen to me in early April, 2005 in Big Bend NP. This was a large PEPTO-BISMOL pink coachwhip in action.

This is want happened and there's no embellishment in this account. This was the most bizzare thing that's ever happened to me with respect to snakes. It wasn't bizzare that I was once tagged by a Timber Rattlesnake(a capture for photo incident). This incident was bizzare because of the timing and decision made by a Coachwhip. I wanted a good photo of a Coachwhip last Spring. And, of course, the best opportunity for this is to spot one on a road. Well, one late afternoon, I took a turn onto the Ross Maxwell Scenic Drive from 118. And, less than a mile down the road I spotted a Coachwhip on some concrete. The snake was on the west side of the road. The concrete was there the handle rain runoff. The snake was situated for a west to east crossing. So I drove past the snake and pulled the car over. When I opened the car door, it became apparent that the snake was going the cross the road. It was just inching to the east. So, I thought my best chance for my shot would be to run over to the shoulder of the road on the east side, directly across from the snake. And, when I got in position, the snake was about 3 feet into the road on the west side. At this point, the Coachwhip reared its head to assess the situation. It was looking directly at me from a distance of roughly 15 feet. This is when it made its decision. I guessed it was going to go to my right or left or retreat back to the west. And this is what made this incident so bizzare. This snake, AT THAT DISTANCE, made the following decision: Incredibily, it decided to come at me full blast and launch an massive strike. It managed to tag my left hand, the hand holding my camera. I was standing upright at the time with my camera at eye level. I'm 5 foot 6. This was a large Coachwhip. The snake then dropped down and made its way into a huge complex of prickly pear directly behind me. I was stunned. I really couldn't believe that that snake actually did what it did. I couldn't believe that the snake actually got that far off the ground to tag me that high. But it did. I got so caught up in this snake's behavior that I didn't get a photo. What a photo that would have been. It all happened very fast. I just stood there in disbelief. The bite was inconsequential. I had some bleeding at the base of my thumb area and tooth marks. I'm thinking that the reason the snake charged from that distance was because the complex of prickly pear directly behind me was its home. I told the account to some park staff and showed them the bite. I'm happy I found some similar coachwhip accounts here. sprem

Replies (11)

sprem Jan 27, 2006 01:27 PM

Correction = Archive(cheeez)

Sighthunter Jan 27, 2006 01:30 PM

No the snake did what it did to intimidate you. It was intentional. It knew you were stalking it and called your bluff. They are intelligent and that has happened to others as well. I have had them take off toward a cliff and then stop causing me to almost fall 15 feet strait down. I have been working with them 11 years now and they are very very smart.
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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

sprem Jan 27, 2006 01:57 PM

I guess it would be safe to say that I was somewhat intimidated.

Sighthunter Jan 27, 2006 03:01 PM

You have to remember sighthunters are active during the day and are constantly interacting with their surroundings. When something corners them they learn (and coachwhips learn)that the consequence of agression on their part is a retreat reflex in the persuee, in most cases then they win. A falcon chasing a duck will abort the persuit in most cases if the duck launches an attack. I train Falcons too.......
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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

crimsonking Jan 28, 2006 08:48 PM

Some suggest that they "aim" for eyes of would-be threats. I can easily see the camera lens as a big "eye" to the snake. I've had easterns bite at the camera too. Some get my hand. (see photo at the top of the field herping forum here on KS.)
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

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Sighthunter Jan 29, 2006 12:22 AM

They are actualy going for your nose. I know! They know what they are biting they are acurate. Yes the camera most likley looked like an eye and your hand the nose!


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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

sprem Jan 29, 2006 07:30 AM

I spose you are kidding as I don't know the minds on this forum. But, if you're serious, please present the scientifically base observations to back this up.

sprem Jan 29, 2006 07:41 AM

PS-My judgement is somewhat impaired currently, due to the imbibing of certain chemicals that may have beneficial effects or negative consequences.

Sighthunter Jan 29, 2006 02:37 PM

I am one if not the only breeder of coachwhips in the United States. I have been breeding them for 11 years and yes I have had my nose compramised more than once. What more can I say other than who else would be more qualified to make these statments?


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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

crimsonking Jan 30, 2006 12:55 PM

...any farther back from his head than your arm is long!!!! hahaha!

:Mark
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chuck911jeep Jan 30, 2006 07:51 PM

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