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"Designer Veilds" Anyone Really Exploring This?

vegasbilly Jan 28, 2006 11:16 PM

Aside from "Sunburst Veileds", are there any other dedicated efforts to "refining" the colorations of Veileds? With Panthers, Bearded Dragons, and Leopard Geckos (to name an obvious few) attracting alot of attention, I was curious as to whether anyone is focusing the same efforts on Veileds?

Bill

Replies (19)

kriswaters Jan 28, 2006 11:18 PM

Wow...what a beaut.

WillHayward Jan 29, 2006 01:22 AM

My opinion? its going to take years and years to establish different veild "Morphs". Probably not worth the trouble either.

Just my thoughts, take them as you will.
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eric adrignola Jan 29, 2006 08:47 AM

Sunburst isn't a morph, it's not even a definite coloration. Every one I've seen is completly different.

Do you know the "original" sunburst vieleds were simply just high orange? Now, people see one with a lot of yellow, and call it sunburst. In fact, my male has more orange on him when he's fired up than any other one I've ever seen. He's also got a ton of yellow too.

It's a marketing thing. That's it. Now, some breed for high yellow, high orange, blue, etc. It's just that - there's no huge genetic difference, locale, or even mutation.

now, those pied veileds someone's been selling fromg Germany... Those are a mutation.

lele Jan 29, 2006 10:11 AM

>>now, those pied veileds someone's been selling fromg Germany... Those are a mutation.
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Chameleon Help & Resource Info

0.1 Veiled Chameleon - Luna. She's now hanging from her big jungle gym in the sky
1.0 Beardie - Darwin
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Lita
0.1 African Clawed Frog - Skipper
0.1 Mad. Hissers and she is on the loose!
0.1 Chilean Rose Hair Tarantula - Rosa Leigh
0.1 Goliath Bird-Eater Tarantula - Natasha
?.? Pinktoe Tarantula - no name yet

eric adrignola Jan 29, 2006 10:26 AM

Pied, piebald... not sure. they're the "translucent" ones advertized. Ugly as sin, but interesting. As ong as it doesnt' affect their basking, might be cool.

lele Jan 29, 2006 10:51 AM

I thought you might be referring to them, but thought of piebald as spotted. Anyway, yes, they are pretty weird looking. I have a translucent dragon and glad he doesn't look like them! My guess is that the trans chams (hey, cool name: trans-chams!)will have health issues at some point. I have no science or knowledge to base that on just speculation
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Chameleon Help & Resource Info

0.1 Veiled Chameleon - Luna. She's now hanging from her big jungle gym in the sky
1.0 Beardie - Darwin
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Lita
0.1 African Clawed Frog - Skipper
0.1 Mad. Hissers and she is on the loose!
0.1 Chilean Rose Hair Tarantula - Rosa Leigh
0.1 Goliath Bird-Eater Tarantula - Natasha
?.? Pinktoe Tarantula - no name yet

pdragon1 Jan 29, 2006 05:00 PM

Those veilds looked partial transluscent. There is a guy here in the us that has 100% trans veilds. They look like pinky mice when they are small. Josh

lele Jan 29, 2006 08:48 PM

got a link? ewww...but curious
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Chameleon Help & Resource Info

0.1 Veiled Chameleon - Luna. She's now hanging from her big jungle gym in the sky
1.0 Beardie - Darwin
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Lita
0.1 African Clawed Frog - Skipper
0.1 Mad. Hissers and she is on the loose!
0.1 Chilean Rose Hair Tarantula - Rosa Leigh
0.1 Goliath Bird-Eater Tarantula - Natasha
?.? Pinktoe Tarantula - no name yet

pdragon1 Jan 29, 2006 09:38 PM

He doesn't advertise at all from what I know. There is a picture of one in a Japaneese reptile magazine from a few years back. I'll have to dig through my stuff to find it. The cham is in the sun on his hand, and you can see right through it(veins, guts, everything) They have been around for a while, that is why I thought 4000 dollars each is a little high. Josh

WillHayward Jan 30, 2006 09:54 PM

I too am interested.
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reptayls Jan 30, 2006 03:29 PM

We've got this one....

Morgana
Reptayls, Ltd.

eric adrignola Jan 30, 2006 06:09 PM

Why, that's nothing more than a shameless plug.

Why is it that everyone with a nice looking chameleon just HAS to post the thing's image everytime the subject of "colors" comes up...

Image

lele Jan 30, 2006 06:22 PM

very good lookin' dude!
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Chameleon Help & Resource Info

0.1 Veiled Chameleon - Luna. She's now hanging from her big jungle gym in the sky
1.0 Beardie - Darwin
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Lita
0.1 African Clawed Frog - Skipper
0.1 Mad. Hissers and she is on the loose!
0.1 Chilean Rose Hair Tarantula - Rosa Leigh
0.1 Goliath Bird-Eater Tarantula - Natasha
?.? Pinktoe Tarantula - no name yet

lele Jan 30, 2006 06:23 PM


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Chameleon Help & Resource Info

0.1 Veiled Chameleon - Luna. She's now hanging from her big jungle gym in the sky
1.0 Beardie - Darwin
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Lita
0.1 African Clawed Frog - Skipper
0.1 Mad. Hissers and she is on the loose!
0.1 Chilean Rose Hair Tarantula - Rosa Leigh
0.1 Goliath Bird-Eater Tarantula - Natasha
?.? Pinktoe Tarantula - no name yet

reptayls Jan 31, 2006 12:14 AM

Finally, a time when I had a reason to post his picture!!! LOL

Yours is a nice lemon yellow, Eric!
Would love to have some of his offspring.

PHEve Jan 31, 2006 11:00 AM

guy to feast my eyes on! VERY pretty!
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PHEve Jan 31, 2006 10:58 AM

you have choosen for him. Dorato, very COOL
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PHEve Jan 31, 2006 10:53 AM

DANG.... he's gorgeous!
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Carlton Jan 31, 2006 01:16 PM

I've never been that keen on breeding for a color. Chams are so beautiful in all their natural variability I can't imagine improving on them. They are what they are...a product of evolution and successful adaptation in the wild. Healthy populations naturally have a lot of individual variation too. I know that captive animals don't need to be as successful or competetive as wild ones. I would always be worried that I was magnifying a negative trait along with the color that would result in a health problem, shorter life, or low reproductive rate. I don't have problems with careful quality breeding, but personally it wouldn't influence what I buy.

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