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Best asian rat?

phiber_optikx Jan 30, 2006 12:58 PM

I am interested in picking up an asian rat and was wondering what you concider the best? I realy like the trinkets and beauty snakes. I love how they look and how large they get. Can someone name off a few examples and include ease of care, disposition,etc.? Thanks everyone!
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Ball Python "Wilson" (Castaway)
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
0.0.1 Mexican Black Kingsnake "Onyx"

Replies (9)

thmpr134 Jan 30, 2006 03:16 PM

I've been keeping and breeding Asian rats for a while now, and my personal favorite as a pet is definitely the Russian (E. schrencki schrencki). They are as easy to keep as it gets, get enough size to be impressive, are great to handle, and breed fairly well. Keep them at room temp and feed them every 5-7 days and you'll love them.
Let me know if you have any questions about their specific care. I love to promote these guys.
By the way, I also have Blue Beauties, Taiwan Beauties, Cave Dwellers, Diones, Mandarins, Kunisir Island Japanese rats, King rats, Coxi, and Korean rats. The Russians are still my favorite.

Bryan

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metalpest Jan 30, 2006 04:19 PM

Not the original poster, but I was thinking of asking the same thing. I currently have adult blues, but I'm planning to sell them for an Asian rat that is smaller, as I need to open up the large cages for other snakes who are outgrowing their current enclosures. I hope to breed the blues, but I have found little specific information, so I pray for a little luck too.

I like the black and yellow schrenki and Kunashirs. How big do each of these get? So you keep yours at room temp and they are pretty easy to breed as well? If so, schrenki may be my choice, as Kunsahirs seem to be a little harder to locate.
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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus. All year long the grasshopper stored up acorns for winter, while the octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched tv. And then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus stole all his acorns, and he got a race car. Is any of this sinking in?

thmpr134 Jan 31, 2006 09:23 AM

Schrencki get to be about 5-6 feet, Kunasirs get about 4-5 feet. I have had great success breeding the schrencki, but I've heard from others that they aren't always that easy. They do tend to go off of food earlier in the season than most rats, but they also start becoming dormant to save calories sooner, too. I keep them in the same room as all of my other snakes using the same temp/light schedule and I've had success every year with them.

Bryan

>>Not the original poster, but I was thinking of asking the same thing. I currently have adult blues, but I'm planning to sell them for an Asian rat that is smaller, as I need to open up the large cages for other snakes who are outgrowing their current enclosures. I hope to breed the blues, but I have found little specific information, so I pray for a little luck too.
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>>I like the black and yellow schrenki and Kunashirs. How big do each of these get? So you keep yours at room temp and they are pretty easy to breed as well? If so, schrenki may be my choice, as Kunsahirs seem to be a little harder to locate.
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>>It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus. All year long the grasshopper stored up acorns for winter, while the octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched tv. And then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus stole all his acorns, and he got a race car. Is any of this sinking in?
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Last night I was laying in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "Where the hell is my ceiling?"

phiber_optikx Jan 30, 2006 04:46 PM

Specifically what I am looking for is something that is corn snake tame, doesn't mind being handled, and get 5' preferably closer to 6'-7' How big does the one you mentioned get? And does it mind being handled?
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Ball Python "Wilson" (Castaway)
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
0.0.1 Mexican Black Kingsnake "Onyx"

rearfang Jan 31, 2006 07:33 AM

Any of the climacaphoras (Japanese, stripped, Albino or green) fit your criteria nicely. Just a matter of what form is most pleasing.

Frank
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thmpr134 Jan 31, 2006 09:27 AM

The Russian is exactly that. They are 6 feet or so when grown and all of mine are very tame. They are the snakes that I take to the schools for kids to handle when I do presentations.

Bryan

>>Specifically what I am looking for is something that is corn snake tame, doesn't mind being handled, and get 5' preferably closer to 6'-7' How big does the one you mentioned get? And does it mind being handled?
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>>0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
>>1.0 Ball Python "Wilson" (Castaway)
>>1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
>>.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
>>0.0.1 Mexican Black Kingsnake "Onyx"
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Last night I was laying in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "Where the hell is my ceiling?"

shelley7950 Jan 31, 2006 07:45 AM

Well...I only have limited experience with one Asian ratsnake, so probably shouldn't even be responding to this question, but I have to put in a vote for the Kunishir Island ratsnakes...I have no idea why they are not more popular...absolutely gorgeous coloring (an almost metallic "beetle wing" green on the anterior half, fading to a pale turquoise and brown on the posterior), hardy, very alert and visually responsive, very tame and easily handled (seem to be a little more active and intense than a corn when in hand, but still easy)...I have found specific information on them rather hard to come by, but what I have found indicates they get to be between 4-5', rarely 6'...love to climb, and active during the day...great display animals...mine will drape himself over his branches and bask under a light bulb like a lizard...Like I said, I can't imagine why they're not more popular...definitely give this one some thought.

SR

hermanbronsgeest Jan 31, 2006 08:47 AM

Elaphe climacophora, Elaphe schrencki and Elaphe anomala fit your requirements perfectly. The same goes for the smaller subspecies of Orthriophis taeniurus.

You should also consider Elaphe quatorlineata and Elaphe sauromates, as well as Zamenis longissimus, although these are off course European ratsnakes, not Asian. They're big, hardy, easy going ratsnakes.

devboy Feb 02, 2006 03:49 PM

>>Elaphe climacophora, Elaphe schrencki and Elaphe anomala fit your requirements perfectly. The same goes for the smaller subspecies of Orthriophis taeniurus.
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>>You should also consider Elaphe quatorlineata and Elaphe sauromates, as well as Zamenis longissimus, although these are off course European ratsnakes, not Asian. They're big, hardy, easy going ratsnakes.

I second that!
But just to throw a spanner in the works:-


Please excuse the ape hand, I get the hairs from my mother.
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Devboy.

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