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Hello, I am trading a burm for this blood, I was woundering what type is it, and if its worth the trade?

sorry, heres the second pic he sent me.

I guess a lot of people are, but most wouldn't send out photos of it!

Looks like a normal 05 blood to me. He's a decent eater though, which is a good thing. Do you know anything about his temperament, and is he CB or WC?? His color looks nice enough, but bloods don't show their true colors until they get to be 3-4 years old.

I would trade a burm for a blood any day. They're better looking (sleek head vs. fat one) and grow to a more manageable size.

Not to high-jack this thread...but I am new here (not to snakes but to breeding them) and have a quick question. Is there a site/book that details what you guys are talking about when it comes to breeding. In this thread you mention "Normal 05" and is he "CW". Also the word HET with different %'s is used a lot. Thanks for any help would like to actually be able to read some of these posts and understand what everyone is talking about.

CB Captive bred
WC Wild Caught
CH Captive hatched
Het means heterzygous for what ever trait is being talked about. Sometimes you hear 50% possible het or 66% possible het. This means that 50% of that clutch of babies is heterzygous for whatever gene is being discussed, and 50% is not.

50% het doesn't mean 50% of the clutch is het. It means the animal in question has a 50% probability of being het.

First of all, it's a probability. There's nothing to say that the whole clutch isn't het, or the whole clutch isn't normal.

Also, some of the animals in the clutch may well be actual albinos, or whatever.

If the animal in question has a 50% probably chance of being het., wouldn't logic lead to the conclusion that in theory only 50% of the clutch is heterzygous. Obviously, you can't tell which animals are het. for a trait, so it would be a probable 50% het. If you bred a blood 100% het. for albino to a regular blood, in theory 50% of that clutch would be heterzygous for albinism.

100% het (for whatever recessive trait) has a 50% chance of throwing the the recessive allele for EACH egg.
You could be very,very, very lucky and hit all eggs in a clutch, or you could be very unlucky and miss on all eggs of a clutch,...Usually somewhere in between.

With 66% het, And 50% het there is no way of knowing if it is normal or het Until you breed it back to a known 100% het, or Homogonous morph, an either produce the trait (or not ).

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Again, that's wrong. Using the same logic, a child has a 50% chance of being born male. Therefore half the siblings in any family are male. Your statement would be sort of true if you'd said ON THE AVERAGE, except for one other problem...

You have not accounted for those that are homozygous for the recessive trait. If you breed two albino hets, 25% of the offspring ON THE AVERAGE will be albino. OF THE REMAINING ANIMALS that aren't albino, 66% will be hets on the average. But that's only half the clutch overall (including the albinos).

They have a whole bunch of stuff listed under care sheets that goes over the genetics and terms of reptile breeding. I found them all very helpful. www.newenglandreptile.com. Good luck.

Steve

Hey,
Looks like a pretty Red Blood and looks to be feeding quite well to boot. Go for it! Ask the previous owner if they kept any care records for it and ask if they will release them with the snake. Just a thought.
-Angel
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This guy emailed me with those pics of that blood wanting to trade for a baby burm I have for sale. I told him I wouldn't ship first adn as soon as he had a tracking number I would ship mine. He started beating around the bush. Also, this guy will only accept money orders, kind of strange. In his ad on fauna classifieds he almost copied my email verbatim on not shipping first on trades and what not. I won't deal with him, and if you do, be careful.
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