"I gave you the book title and pg # look it up."

You missed the point completely. What's the point of arguing from authority if you don't even mention the authority? Kinda pulls the rug out from under what is, regardless, a crappy form of argument. The fact that your authority makes a different point than the one you're trying to make is a second major problem.

"And yes in some cases i am anti-academic, so?"

Well, it does make discussing science a bit difficult. Like trying to have a meaningful discussion about herps with birders. Doesn't mean there's anything wrong with birders, just means you aren't going to get anywhere talking to them.

Patrick Alexander