ok ok ok!!!!!! just to let everyone know i was just debating on weather using light or heat mats.b/c i have an assort of opinions its not like i just went out one day and said i want to buy a pacman frog i have had my frog for several months now.. doesnt make me an expert or anything. i have had them in the past so i know alot about them im. ok thanks to all and please post pics of setups they are always nice to look at get some different ideas. Thanks to all